Online Poker Forum at Full Tilt Poker   FAQ   Search    Register   Profile  Log in to check your private messages  Log in  Online Poker Forum - MIN Raise          Online Poker Forum Home -> No Limit/Pot Limit Strategy Discussion Author Message nchi High Card Joined: 22 May 2008 Posts: 3 Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:42 am    Post subject: MIN Raise ive been playing SnG's i see min raises EVERYWHERE none stop what is the deal with it how do you cope with me like i hear its weak play but LATE in the tourny when you are med stack and a min raise does hurt from BB to SB advice on how to deal with this also this disguises alot of hands so i had AK down to 4 players almost in the money and this guy is a constant min raiser i had like 900 chips i go all in heads up he flips up pocket q's i miss the board and lose Back to top LostOstrich Forum Ostrich Joined: 11 Aug 2007 Posts: 4183 Location: In your bed, with your wife. Smoking your cigarettes, drinking your brandy. Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:02 am    Post subject: I played Limit Hold Em the other night. It's even worse there, they're all at it. Back to top Fabio Aliprandi Pair Joined: 25 May 2008 Posts: 36 Location: Italy Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:40 am    Post subject: nope..limit hold'em doesn0't like me,... Back to top nchi High Card Joined: 22 May 2008 Posts: 3 Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 1:20 pm    Post subject: well any advice on how to play against this it has put me in 4th place many times in SNG's which is probably the biggest piss off cause there hands are disguised Back to top cubbies760 Drawing Dead Joined: 19 Oct 2006 Posts: 7547 Location: Suburban Chicago Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 1:33 pm    Post subject: nchi wrote: well any advice on how to play against this it has put me in 4th place many times in SNG's which is probably the biggest piss off cause there hands are disguised I have some advice. Don't let them in the pot with a min-raise. Make a substantial re-raise so that their disguised hand won't have the odds to play. Back to top nilgiri Message Board Junkie Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 2110 Location: New Hampshire Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 6:27 pm    Post subject: Typically, late in a SnG with high blinds, you can count a PF minraise as a "real" raise. Just play however you would play had the player done something "normal." Once you get some reads, you can begin to treat them differently, but until then it is pretty safe to treat them like a real raise. Back to top renegades8 Forum Fish Joined: 26 Nov 2006 Posts: 3699 Location: griiiiinding Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:18 pm    Post subject: You would probably get better responses about how to cope with minraises in SNGs if you posted this in the SNG section. Early on you can almost treat it as a limp. Instead of letting it frustrate you, this usually works best. That is, unless it's a minraise of a huge bet or when the blinds are big later on. You can also add this to your arsenal when the blinds or the pot is big, as it is treated almost the same as a standard raise, yet your risking less of your chips to find out essentially the same information. In fact, iirc, there's a thread in regards to this topic (in cash games), somewhere in this NL/PL section. Back to top Zophar Moderator Joined: 26 Oct 2005 Posts: 3640 Location: East Coast Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject: I'd like to find that thread renegades, as I've been thinking about it a bit after witnessing it used by a couple of players in the nosebleed games(DaEvils is the main player that comes to mind). He was primarily doing it OTB, seemingly for pot control with marginal hands that he wanted to play in position. For example, when he pot bet OTB it would be $350 and the 3 bet from the blinds was around $1,200-$1,300. When he lead out for $200, the 3 bet was $800, which he'd call frequently. It was interesting to watch. Back to top renegades8 Forum Fish Joined: 26 Nov 2006 Posts: 3699 Location: griiiiinding Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:40 pm    Post subject: http://pokerforums.fulltiltpoker.com/viewtopic.php?t=57052 It's not an incredibly long thread or anything, but there's still some fairly good discussion in the thread, and I'm sure if you added your opinion it'd be even better. Back to top Riddim Moderator Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 8177 Location: Sweden Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:04 pm    Post subject: Zophar wrote: I'd like to find that thread renegades, as I've been thinking about it a bit after witnessing it used by a couple of players in the nosebleed games(DaEvils is the main player that comes to mind). He was primarily doing it OTB, seemingly for pot control with marginal hands that he wanted to play in position. For example, when he pot bet OTB it would be $350 and the 3 bet from the blinds was around $1,200-$1,300. When he lead out for $200, the 3 bet was $800, which he'd call frequently. It was interesting to watch. Yeah I've seen him discuss this in some videos and it seems to be working out well for him. It forces his villains to either make their 3-bets a lot smaller or really overbet. When they choose the former he can call with a lot more hands, since the stacks are deeper, and when they choose the latter their risk:reward ratio is a lot more unfavorable than normal. In addition it lets him play with deeper stacks in position when called and also works well vs. all the annoying pushbot shortstackers. Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         Online Poker Forum Home -> No Limit/Pot Limit Strategy Discussion All times are GMT - 5 Hours Page 1 of 1 Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group

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