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rezod212 Two Pair
Joined: 27 Mar 2008 Posts: 56
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:12 pm Post subject: Raise turn? |
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Poker Stars, $5 + $0.50 NL Hold'em Tournament, 10/20 Blinds, 9 Players
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MP1: 20
MP2: 1,490
CO: 1,470
Hero (BTN): 3,040
SB: 1,810
BB: 1,400
UTG: 1,500
UTG+1: 1,270
UTG+2: 1,500
Pre-Flop: (30) Q A dealt to Hero (BTN)
4 folds, MP2 raises to 60, CO calls 60, Hero raises to 120, SB folds, BB calls 100, MP2 calls 60, CO calls 60
Flop: (490) 9 K 6 (4 Players)
BB checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, Hero checks
Turn: (490) 3 (4 Players)
BB checks, MP2 checks, CO bets 260, Hero calls 260, 2 folds
River: (1,010) 5 (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero bets 300, CO calls 300
Results: 1,610 Pot
CO showed 7 7 (a pair of Sevens) and WON 1,610 (+930 NET)
Hero showed Q A (high card Ace) and LOST (-680 NET)
Getting smoked by callers with pocket pair tonight when there are 2-3 over cards. Should I be betting out harder? THis is 3rd or 4th time tonight someone stuck aroung with pockets with over cards. Earlier dude called serious bet with 55's. while A K J was on board. wtf are they thinking sometimes? He pulled it out against my AA with a river 5. OMG |
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kngspdd Straight
Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 119 Location: In the Ozarks
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:58 am Post subject: |
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| I think that you should have bet on the flop to represent the king here. Checking after everyone else does pretty much lets the guy know his sevens might be good. If you did have kings you probably would have lead out on the flop to try and spook any flush draws, so by checking you pretty much let him know you didn't have it. As played, I think that you should have raised the turn for sure to make it seem as though you didn't want to see a flush card on the river. Calling the bet makes it look like your chasing for sure. I guess you should have bet more or pushed all in on the river at this point since it did look like you were chasing and it would have made his choice much more difficult. I think that in a situation like this you have to put his tournament life on the line to win this pot. Also a bet of 300 into a 1010 looks pretty weak, after the way you played this hand and would be hard not to call with the amount this guy already has invested in this pot. |
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Badlydrawnboy Flush
Joined: 28 Jan 2008 Posts: 127
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 1:16 am Post subject: |
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You forgot to play your position here. You're last to act on the flop. I wouldn't c-bet OOP against 3 players either, but if everybody checks? Sure! Bet 300 or something and try to take it down.
By checking the flop you basically gave away your hand.
The river bet was pretty useless as well, IMO. If you checked the flop, you have to check here as well or you're just throwing away chips. |
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cardfish2 Royal Flush
Joined: 31 Oct 2006 Posts: 652 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 5:48 am Post subject: |
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Preflop - either just call or make a real raise to at least 200-240.
Flop - As played, you should make the c-bet.
Turn - As played, call it. Sounds like the calling stations will pay you off if you hit and besides that, you probably have pot odds to call him anyways. |
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MVP04X3 Full House
Joined: 06 Oct 2005 Posts: 154 Location: sitting behind chips that used to be yours
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:22 am Post subject: |
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I see 2 mistakes:
1. If you are going to pump it up with AQ, really pump it up. Raising another 60 does nothing.
2. You flopped the nut flush draw in position. You have no choice but to bet this hand when it is checked to you. I would bet it aggressively. A bet about the size of the pot seems right. If you get called you can check the turn to try to catch your flush for free or make another aggressive bet and represent AK. Your hand is way too strong on this flop to check the way you played it preflop. |
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