Online Poker Forum at Full Tilt Poker   FAQ   Search    Register   Profile  Log in to check your private messages  Log in  Online Poker Forum - Hands from a $24+2 45 player SnG          Online Poker Forum Home -> Sit & Go Tournament Poker Author Message nilgiri Message Board Junkie Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 2110 Location: New Hampshire Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 12:11 pm    Post subject: Hands from a $24+2 45 player SnG Comments on these hands would be appreciated! ------------------ HAND #1 ------------------ Full Tilt Poker, $24 + $2 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 60/120 Blinds, 8 Players LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter BB: 2,335 UTG: 4,655 UTG+1: 3,500 Hero (MP1): 6,830 MP2: 3,238 CO: 5,339 BTN: 3,875 SB: 1,370 Pre-Flop: (180) Q K dealt to Hero (MP1) 2 folds, Hero raises to 360, 3 folds, SB calls 300, BB folds Flop: (840) 2 5 Q (2 Players) SB checks, Hero bets 420, SB raises to 1,010 and is All-In, Hero ??? ------------------ HAND #2 ------------------ Full Tilt Poker, $24 + $2 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 100/200 Blinds, 9 Players LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter BB: 5,296 UTG: 8,522 UTG+1: 3,080 UTG+2: 1,690 Hero (MP1): 9,341 MP2: 5,511 CO: 3,714 BTN: 3,235 SB: 2,095 Pre-Flop: (300) J J dealt to Hero (MP1) 3 folds, Hero raises to 600, MP2 folds, CO calls 600, 2 folds, BB calls 400 Flop: (1,900) 4 6 4 (3 Players) BB checks, Hero bets 1,015, CO folds, BB calls 1,015 Turn: (3,930) A (2 Players) BB checks, Hero ??? ------------------ HAND #3 ------------------ Full Tilt Poker, $24 + $2 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 120/240 Blinds, 7 Players LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter CO: 3,962 BTN: 2,280 Hero (SB): 11,856 BB: 5,431 UTG: 2,753 UTG+1: 3,715 MP: 1,635 Pre-Flop: (360) Q K dealt to Hero (SB) 3 folds, CO raises to 840, BTN folds, Hero ??? CO had just doubled up by sucking out with AJ vs. AK. There are like 14 people left (top 6 get paid). ------------------ HAND #4 ------------------ Full Tilt Poker, $24 + $2 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 200/400 Blinds, 9 Players LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter CO: 5,490 BTN: 5,888 SB: 4,360 BB: 13,068 Hero (UTG): 11,907 UTG+1: 8,057 UTG+2: 3,208 MP1: 4,000 MP2: 11,522 Pre-Flop: (600) A 2 dealt to Hero (UTG) Hero raises to 800, 7 folds, BB calls 400 Flop: (1,800) 9 T 6 (2 Players) BB bets 1,800, Hero ??? Final table. I've been experimenting with minraise stealing from EP. It works fairly well. Sometimes I get a call, but I don't minraise with complete crap, so I often have some playability OTF. This time I hit the flop hard! Back to top DrewGodofPoker Four of a Kind Joined: 10 Apr 2008 Posts: 341 Location: New Hampshire Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 5:07 pm    Post subject: hand #1 call hand#2 all in hand#3 fold hand#4 smoothe call and pretend ur on the single card draw Back to top byamamoto1 Bay Area Bidness Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 2189 Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 6:55 pm    Post subject: 1st hand: easy call at this point. the sb has a set here sometimes, but more times than not you're gonna be up against a worse Q. 2nd hand: I think i peel one here and re-evaluate the river. You're in position in the hand and its clear that you're opponent isn't likely on a FD, at least not the nut one at the time. what kind of hand could he have called your flop bet with? 3rd hand: fold. all you're hoping for is to get KQ into a race. no need to spew chips here. 4th hand: please dont min-raise UTG especially with a hand like A2s, DUCY. other than that, i think the best play is to raise. The bb's likely holdings after leading out on a flop like that are something like TP or two pair. I pop it up here to like 3800 or 4000 hoping to get money in now, before a scare card hits the turn and kills your action(of which there could be many that hit the turn). Back to top nilgiri Message Board Junkie Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 2110 Location: New Hampshire Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 8:22 pm    Post subject: DrewGodofPoker wrote: hand#2 all in Is there anything he'll call a shove with that I beat? byamamoto1 wrote: 4th hand: please dont min-raise UTG especially with a hand like A2s, DUCY. other than that, i think the best play is to raise. The bb's likely holdings after leading out on a flop like that are something like TP or two pair. I pop it up here to like 3800 or 4000 hoping to get money in now, before a scare card hits the turn and kills your action(of which there could be many that hit the turn). Like I said, I'm experimenting with this. It's near the bubble, the blinds have gotten fairly high, and I have a big stack. In situations like that, I've found that it is at least worth experimenting with minraising, because lots of people will fold. The BB has to be tight enough, obviously. It is less effective than a button steal, but cheaper as well. Anyway, do you think he might be bluffing here, trying to scare me off of whatever I have by representing a flush? How often do you think this happens? Do you think a raise will scare him off whatever he's got, considering this is so close to the bubble, and he has a healthy stack? Back to top goomlah Royal Flush Joined: 08 Sep 2005 Posts: 614 Location: Chicago Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 9:05 pm    Post subject: Nil, drew's thinking on hand 2 is what Ace-rag hand could he call with? The only thing he could have possibly played was the flush draw or an over pair. I'm not sure all-in works, but betting about 2000-2500 should do the trick. Back to top byamamoto1 Bay Area Bidness Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 2189 Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 12:40 am    Post subject: nilgiri wrote: Anyway, do you think he might be bluffing here, trying to scare me off of whatever I have by representing a flush? How often do you think this happens? Do you think a raise will scare him off whatever he's got, considering this is so close to the bubble, and he has a healthy stack? it is possible that he could be bluffing here, but if he is, i don't think he fires a second bullet out of position if you smooth call his flop bet. like you said he has a healthy stack near the bubble and probably very willing to shut it down after he takes his initial stab at the pot. either way, i'm pretty sure he's not going to spew many more chips in this spot. i think more times than not you'll be up against something other than air. in that event, you want to try to put as many chips in the pot before seeing a turn card. there could be a ton of overcards that hit that scare off a hand like AT or KT. should another heart fall it could definitely kill any action that you may have gotten earlier. also if the villain has a high heart in the hand, he may be willing to see another card for what he perceives as relatively cheap, thus building a pot. you can value bet him from then on with smallish bets and make more than you likely would have by smooth calling and betting the turn (assumes villain would check). Back to top nilgiri Message Board Junkie Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 2110 Location: New Hampshire Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 11:16 am    Post subject: Hand 1 I think was obvious what to do... I put that in there for psychological reasons, so people didn't get stuck thinking I am posting all these hands because I lost them (and thus should have folded everything). ------------------ HAND #1 ------------------ Full Tilt Poker, $24 + $2 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 60/120 Blinds, 8 Players LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter BB: 2,335 UTG: 4,655 UTG+1: 3,500 Hero (MP1): 6,830 MP2: 3,238 CO: 5,339 BTN: 3,875 SB: 1,370 Pre-Flop: (180) Q K dealt to Hero (MP1) 2 folds, Hero raises to 360, 3 folds, SB calls 300, BB folds Flop: (840) 2 5 Q (2 Players) SB checks, Hero bets 420, SB raises to 1,010 and is All-In, Hero calls 590 Turn: (2,860) T (2 Players - 1 is All-In) River: (2,860) T (2 Players - 1 is All-In) Results: 2,860 Pot Hero showed Q K (two pair, Queens and Tens) and WON 2,860 (+1,490 NET) SB showed J K (a pair of Tens) and LOST (-1,370 NET) Hand 2: I still don't see what I achieve by betting. Is some PP really going to call here? Ah is such a scare card that I can't see much that will call a bet that isn't a flush or at least a pair of aces. Someone who couldn't let go of Ax (likely AK/AQ) OTF might call here. KhQh could be in the hand, maybe even other KhXh hands. I doubt he's actually smooth calling with an overpair, given the board, rather than reraising me? I don't mind getting it all in here, because I do think I am still likely ahead. But if I bet out, I'm committed given his stack. I don't think he's calling off his stack with much that I beat. Wouldn't it be better to give him a chance to bluff at having a flush or A? ------------------ HAND #2 ------------------ Full Tilt Poker, $24 + $2 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 100/200 Blinds, 9 Players LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter BB: 5,296 UTG: 8,522 UTG+1: 3,080 UTG+2: 1,690 Hero (MP1): 9,341 MP2: 5,511 CO: 3,714 BTN: 3,235 SB: 2,095 Pre-Flop: (300) J J dealt to Hero (MP1) 3 folds, Hero raises to 600, MP2 folds, CO calls 600, 2 folds, BB calls 400 Flop: (1,900) 4 6 4 (3 Players) BB checks, Hero bets 1,015, CO folds, BB calls 1,015 Turn: (3,930) A (2 Players) BB checks, Hero checks River: (3,930) T (2 Players) BB bets 800, Hero ??? Hand 3, I think I probably misplayed, as you all agree, although it worked out ok. My feeling at the time was that he probably wouldn't want to call off the stack he just won so close to the FT. Not the best reasoning... ------------------ HAND #3 ------------------ Full Tilt Poker, $24 + $2 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 120/240 Blinds, 7 Players LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter CO: 3,962 BTN: 2,280 Hero (SB): 11,856 BB: 5,431 UTG: 2,753 UTG+1: 3,715 MP: 1,635 Pre-Flop: (360) Q K dealt to Hero (SB) 3 folds, CO raises to 840, BTN folds, Hero raises to 11,856 and is All-In, 2 folds Results: 1,920 Pot Hero mucked Q K and WON 1,920 (+1,080 NET) Hand 4, I would still like to hear other peoples' opinions. The main reason I am posting it is because I don't know what the best thing to do is OTF, and now OTT. I figure a smooth call here might make him think I've got a nut flush draw, and then he would bet big again OTT to get me off of it if he's got a set or two pair. And if he's bluffing, he might fire again OTT. But on the other hand, it is more likely that he'll get all him money in OTF if he has something good... I don't know. ------------------ HAND #4 ------------------ Full Tilt Poker, $24 + $2 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 200/400 Blinds, 9 Players LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter CO: 5,490 BTN: 5,888 SB: 4,360 BB: 13,068 Hero (UTG): 11,907 UTG+1: 8,057 UTG+2: 3,208 MP1: 4,000 MP2: 11,522 Pre-Flop: (600) A 2 dealt to Hero (UTG) Hero raises to 800, 7 folds, BB calls 400 Flop: (1,800) 9 T 6 (2 Players) BB bets 1,800, Hero calls 1,800 Turn: (5,400) 5 (2 Players) BB bets 2,400, Hero ??? Back to top dcdoorknob Message Board Junkie Joined: 11 May 2007 Posts: 1137 Location: Mississippi Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 12:46 pm    Post subject: Hand 2, I like checking behind, as I'm not sure a better hand (or even a better draw) folds, and you likely have the best hand and the best draw. On the river, I'm really not sure whether to smallish raise for value or not, I think you will often see a smaller heart here but I just don't like opening it back up in the case he does have a bigger one, I'd likely just call. I also actually like the all in in hand 3. I think folding is giving way too much credit to a cutoff raise, and I think you have considerable fold equity here against most opponents. A lesser raise prices you into calling a shove anyways imo (from BB too), and as for calling, OOP, eh not a big fan of that option either. Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         Online Poker Forum Home -> Sit & Go Tournament Poker All times are GMT - 5 Hours Page 1 of 1 Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group

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