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fire_eyes_2k
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 3:40 pm    Post subject: Tricky Steal Spot Reply with quote

Hand from the PS $1m turbo takedown freeroll. There's just over 2000 left, and the pay jumps from $90 to $150 @ 1999, so anyone who takes me on has something to lose. I haven't raised for a while, so I feel like this is a decent time given stack sizes behind me.

I haven't seen CO flat-call preflop yet, so his holding is unknown. He's folded most hands, open raised a few, and rr'd with QQ. Now what do you do on the flop, esp. given that he will have 10.5k left. C'bet of 5555 any good? A c/r bluff is out of the question as a bluff pot-commits him, and I think check/folding is way too weak. Thoughts?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1200 (9 handed) Converter Tool from (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Button (t11799)
SB (t10505)
BB (t15043)
UTG (t9144)
UTG+1 (t12839)
MP1 (t9900)
MP2 (t5476)
Hero (t20410)
CO (t13988)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 4, 6.
4 folds, Hero raises to t3050, CO calls t3050, 3 folds.

Flop: (t8980) 8, T, 9 (2 players)
Hero ????
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Starvingwriter
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, since you're bluffing, you knew you'd likely be in this spot after the flop. I guess the course of action here would be to lay out the c-bet and hope he has two overcards and will lay it down.

The wisest thing to do would be check/fold imo, but then again, I wouldn't try to bluff with this in the first place.
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PokerJessO
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

your raise was 1.5x bb, barely more than a min raise. Unless people have regularly been folding to this raise, I would either raise more pre-flop or not bother at all.

On the flop, I don't think you can bet here. You're out of position, and any 10 (and possibly Q) is certainly going to reraise you. Any 9 8 or 7 is definitely going to at least call. If you check and bet the turn if he checks, you'll at least have a chance to push a Q or 7 off their hand.
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live4freerolls
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a very standard pf raise. As much as i hate it id probably bet about 4k then shut down.
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Honest_Rob
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fold preflop. Don't steal with garbage. Steal with hands that at least have a chance to flop a hand or draw like suited connectors, suited Aces/Kings etc. As played you might as well throw a c-bet out there. Otherwise your preflop bet was pointless. Fold to any raise and go into check/fold mode if called.
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