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Online Poker Forum - 3 +.30 90 person sng- Would You Call?

 
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Jackten11
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 6:08 pm    Post subject: 3 +.30 90 person sng- Would You Call? Reply with quote

Full Tilt Poker, NL Hold'em Tournament, 250/500 Blinds, 50 Ante, 7 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Hero (UTG): 33,085
UTG+1: 5,345
MP: 17,380
CO: 3,295
BTN: 16,235
SB: 5,485
BB: 5,960

Pre-Flop: (1,100) T A dealt to Hero (UTG)
Hero raises to 1,500, UTG+1 raises to 5,295 and is All-In, 5 folds????????????
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goomlah
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

8795 in the pot already and it costs you $3795 to call. That's getting odds of 2.5-1 or so if my math is right. The problem is you raised UTG and the immediate person to your left moved in. I know it's $3, I know they're loose, but I can't see UTG+1 without a hand here. Fold and Move on.
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g_420man
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would call.
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jeffr8
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd call that.
You gotta figure the shortstack would be making that move on a wide range of cards.
He only had 5000 chips, giving him an M of 5, meaning his only move is allin, so in his position hes gotta make a move since coasting isn't really an option (granted hes in roughly 20th out of 25 people left, and the 90man KOs only pay top 9)
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goomlah
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is his range really that wide even at $3? Guys, UTG raised and +1 raised. Seems like he's got a biggy.
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sixandfour
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

goomlah wrote:
Is his range really that wide even at $3? Guys, UTG raised and +1 raised. Seems like he's got a biggy.


Yes, his range is wide enough for 9:4 odds. UTG raised to him; he is UTG+1. The above statement implies he shoved after a EP 3-bet. With 10.5 blinds, he should be looking to shove the first playable hand. Your UTG raise just makes it likely that he'll get into a desirable HU situation, as the players behind you are now facing a 3 bet pot and the possibility of a shove from the original bettor. In addition, he may not think he's too bad off if you've been raising a lot of hands. Unless you think this guy's unusually tight, You're definitely getting the right price here IMO.
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nilgiri
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Given the size of our stack, the size of the shover's stack, and the odds we are getting, I think this is a snap call...
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quantumsuicide
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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't raise UTG with AT to begin with.. fold, he probably has a better A or a PP...
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