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renegades8 · Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 9:34 pm Post subject: Flopped Set in MBJ

This hand was played during Saturday's MBJ, I just forgot to post it after since the forum was down. We kind of discussed it at the table after the hand, some said they'd raise or fold preflop, raise the flop, or raise the river. Sorry it's not converted, the Leggo Poker Converter didn't want to convert it for some reason and I wasn't crazy about FTR's converter for LHE.

Full Tilt Poker Game #6453523312: MBJ Horse Season 3 (48390891), Table 2 - 100/200 - Limit Hold'em - 14:59:19 ET - 2008/05/17
Seat 1: Honest_Rob (3,294)
Seat 3: skopo (1,574)
Seat 4: renegades8 (2,215)
Seat 5: Pokit2s (2,919)
Seat 6: Tiera Starr (1,495)
Seat 7: kyblue007 (2,503)
Tiera Starr posts the small blind of 50
kyblue007 posts the big blind of 100
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to renegades8 [5s 5c]
Honest_Rob folds
skopo calls 100
renegades8 calls 100
Pokit2s raises to 200
Tiera Starr folds
kyblue007 calls 100
skopo calls 100
renegades8 calls 100
*** FLOP *** [2d Qc 5h]
kyblue007 bets 100
skopo folds
renegades8 calls 100
Pokit2s calls 100
*** TURN *** [2d Qc 5h] [7c]
kyblue007 bets 200
renegades8 raises to 400
Pokit2s folds
kyblue007 raises to 600
renegades8 raises to 800
kyblue007 calls 200
*** RIVER *** [2d Qc 5h 7c] [Qh]
kyblue007 bets 200
renegades8 calls 200

Riddim · Moderator Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 8172 Location: Sweden

I'd raise the river but otherwise this looks good to me. While a case can be made for raising the flop, I think I prefer waiting for the turn unless there's some specific history that gives you a reason to believe pokit2s will be less likely to raise or more likely to give you action if you raise than normal.

renegades8 · Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 11:03 pm Post subject:

fire_eyes_2k · Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 11:20 pm Post subject:

Hmmmmm...

I think his range is pretty narrow here, so I my first instinct is to flat call the river. KY was the BB, so he could realistically have ATC, but I think 22 or maybe 77 is most likely. He could have a 2pr combination like 57 given the way the action comes to life on the turn. I can't really have seen him making the call preflop with Q2, Q5 or Q7. I'm really starting to lean back towards him having 22, I think it's about 50% of his range. The river lead is slightly worrying after you capped the turn, he clearly thinks he's ahead, and chances are the Q hasnt made a difference.

So upon thinking, raise the river, and call a 3bet instead of capping it as a cap will properly screw you when you're behind, the saved bet will give you a fighting chance with 500 instead of 300 chips.

Riddim · Moderator Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 8172 Location: Sweden

The only hand that beats you is 77, so even if he only takes that line with sets you break even on your river raise.

Edit: And yes, I'm aware that you're technically beat by a bunch of other hands but I doubt if he's ever seeing a flop with those. Speaking of the process of elimination, that line is pretty terrible with 77 too so you can probably discount that a little as well, although not nearly as heavily as all the other hands that beat you.

renegades8 · Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 7:20 pm Post subject:

Blah. I guess I shouldn't be so results oriented, maybe I should raise this river and just call if he 3bets.

*** SHOW DOWN ***
kyblue007 shows [7s Qs] a full house, Queens full of Sevens
renegades8 shows [5s 5c] a full house, Fives full of Queens
kyblue007 wins the pot (3,150) with a full house, Queens full of Sevens
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,150 | Rake 0
Board: [2d Qc 5h 7c Qh]
Seat 1: Honest_Rob didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: skopo folded on the Flop
Seat 4: renegades8 showed [5s 5c] and lost with a full house, Fives full of Queens
Seat 5: Pokit2s (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 6: Tiera Starr (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 7: kyblue007 (big blind) showed [7s Qs] and won (3,150) with a full house, Queens full of Sevens

Riddim · Moderator Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 8172 Location: Sweden

Oh well, on a positive note it shouldn't be hard to win your money back if that hand is indicative of his overall game.

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