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rezod212
Pair
Joined: 27 Mar 2008
Posts: 33
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 Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 10:19 am Post subject: coast to the money or bet? |
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low stakes 45 man tourn. Would I have been better to just coast into the money before I turned the betting back on or try to take out 3rd in chips to try to catch the leader? These were my last two hands.
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HAND #1
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Poker Stars, $1 + $0.20 NL Hold'em Tournament, 200/400 Blinds, 9 Players
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CO: 7,385
BTN: 20,419
SB: 8,305
Hero (BB): 9,555
UTG: 1,440
UTG+1: 3,205
UTG+2: 3,715
MP1: 5,636
MP2: 7,840
Pre-Flop: (825) 3 J dealt to Hero (BB)
5 folds, CO calls 400, BTN folds, SB calls 200, Hero checks
Flop: (1,425) K 6 J (3 Players)
SB bets 800, Hero calls 800, CO folds
Turn: (3,025) 3 (2 Players)
SB bets 1,200, Hero raises to 2,400, SB raises to 7,080 and is All-In, Hero calls 4,680
River: (17,185) 8 (2 Players - 1 is All-In)
Results: 17,185 Pot
SB showed 8 K (two pair, Kings and Eights) and WON 17,185 (+8,880 NET)
Hero showed 3 J (two pair, Jacks and Threes) and LOST (-8,305 NET)
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HAND #2
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Poker Stars, $1 + $0.20 NL Hold'em Tournament, 200/400 Blinds, 9 Players
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MP2: 6,960
CO: 20,394
BTN: 17,185
Hero (SB): 1,250
BB: 1,415
UTG: 3,180
UTG+1: 3,690
UTG+2: 5,611
MP1: 7,815
Pre-Flop: (825) J J dealt to Hero (SB)
5 folds, CO raises to 1,200, BTN folds, Hero raises to 1,225 and is All-In, BB folds, CO calls 25
Flop: (3,075) Q A 3 (2 Players - 1 is All-In)
Turn: (3,075) 7 (2 Players - 1 is All-In)
River: (3,075) 2 (2 Players - 1 is All-In)
Results: 3,075 Pot
CO showed 2 A (two pair, Aces and Deuces) and WON 3,075 (+1,825 NET)
Hero showed J J (a pair of Jacks) and LOST (-1,250 NET) |
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dcdoorknob
Royal Flush
Joined: 11 May 2007
Posts: 797
Location: Mississippi
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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I think I would normally fold on the flop in the first hand, SB bet into 2 people, he's probably got 2nd pair+no kicker beat.
Other than that I see nothing wrong with how you played the hands. |
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skeeter1114
Message Board Junkie
Joined: 28 Feb 2007
Posts: 1674
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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I think I would normally fold on the flop in the first hand, SB bet into 2 people, he's probably got 2nd pair+no kicker beat.
Other than that I see nothing wrong with how you played the hands. |
Agreed with DC here. Plus, in a $1 tournament, I may be playing for the win more than a cash. |
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nilgiri
Royal Flush
Joined: 11 Jan 2007
Posts: 980
Location: New Hampshire
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, I don't like the flop call at all. When first to act bets 2/3 pot, usually he has a hand. There isn't much your mid-pair, low kicker is ahead of... Otherwise, you just got unlucky. I wouldn't have played it any differently after that. |
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rezod212
Pair
Joined: 27 Mar 2008
Posts: 33
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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Ya looking back I think thats what I should have done also. Either dump on the flop bet or go 3x on him to see where he was really at. The call just set me up for the loss. I did have him beat on the turn until his kicker caught mine. Oh well it was a buck lol.
Thanks for the advise! |
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PokerJessO
Straight Flush
Joined: 28 Jun 2007
Posts: 371
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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On the flop, I would rather see a raise to find out where you stand, then fold to a reraise.
After calling the flop, I certainly wouldn't raise the turn. I think folding is a better option than raising. But in this situation, I would seriously consider flat-calling with the intent of stealing on the river if a diamond hits. You're getting almost 3:1 odds on your money, and you likely have 17 outs (11 diamonds, 3 jacks, 3 3's) that may win the pot. |
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