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Online Poker Forum - Ostridge's FTOPS BAP Thread SOLD OUT!!
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LostOstrich
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Joined: 11 Aug 2007
Posts: 3483
Location: PokerStars :(

PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Out, after an hour and 15 mins.

Massive disappointment, but I'm happy with my play. This guy had re-raised so many times that he just had to be applying a stupidly wide range. I'm happy with my shove here, and I think his call is on the OK side of borderline. His 3-bet is pretty silly though, as it prices him into calling my shove. Just a shame my hand didn't hold, but we don't cry about that sort of thing now do we?


Full Tilt Poker Game #6440084841: FTOPS Event #19 (44841079), Table 95 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:17:51 ET - 2008/05/16
Seat 1: LCeez12 (2,615)
Seat 2: WaWa-57 (2,155), is sitting out
Seat 3: robert07 (3,535)
Seat 4: danielk86 (5,945)
Seat 5: Janmyman (3,295)
Seat 6: LostOstrich (2,220)
Seat 7: LeKnave (1,885)
Seat 8: Cougars4444 (6,995)
Seat 9: MattSuspect (4,625)
LeKnave posts the small blind of 40
Cougars4444 posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to LostOstrich [8s 8c]
MattSuspect folds
LCeez12 raises to 240
WaWa-57 folds
robert07 folds
danielk86 has 15 seconds left to act
danielk86 raises to 645
Janmyman folds
LostOstrich has 15 seconds left to act
LostOstrich has requested TIME
LostOstrich raises to 2,220, and is all in
LeKnave folds
Cougars4444 folds
LCeez12 folds
danielk86 calls 1,575
LostOstrich shows [8s 8c]
danielk86 shows [Qh As]
*** FLOP *** [6c Qc 3h]
*** TURN *** [6c Qc 3h] [7s]
*** RIVER *** [6c Qc 3h 7s] [5c]
LostOstrich shows a pair of Eights
danielk86 shows a pair of Queens
danielk86 wins the pot (4,800) with a pair of Queens
LostOstrich stands up
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rockycatt
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Joined: 03 Jan 2007
Posts: 2899

PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

very good effort

nope no crying one score will make it look like

Very Happy Very Happy ainchaint history Very Happy Very Happy


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byamamoto1
Bay Area Bidness


Joined: 11 Aug 2005
Posts: 2189

PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LostOstrich wrote:
Out, after an hour and 15 mins.

Massive disappointment, but I'm happy with my play. This guy had re-raised so many times that he just had to be applying a stupidly wide range. I'm happy with my shove here, and I think his call is on the OK side of borderline. His 3-bet is pretty silly though, as it prices him into calling my shove. Just a shame my hand didn't hold, but we don't cry about that sort of thing now do we?


Full Tilt Poker Game #6440084841: FTOPS Event #19 (44841079), Table 95 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:17:51 ET - 2008/05/16
Seat 1: LCeez12 (2,615)
Seat 2: WaWa-57 (2,155), is sitting out
Seat 3: robert07 (3,535)
Seat 4: danielk86 (5,945)
Seat 5: Janmyman (3,295)
Seat 6: LostOstrich (2,220)
Seat 7: LeKnave (1,885)
Seat 8: Cougars4444 (6,995)
Seat 9: MattSuspect (4,625)
LeKnave posts the small blind of 40
Cougars4444 posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to LostOstrich [8s 8c]
MattSuspect folds
LCeez12 raises to 240
WaWa-57 folds
robert07 folds
danielk86 has 15 seconds left to act
danielk86 raises to 645
Janmyman folds
LostOstrich has 15 seconds left to act
LostOstrich has requested TIME
LostOstrich raises to 2,220, and is all in
LeKnave folds
Cougars4444 folds
LCeez12 folds
danielk86 calls 1,575
LostOstrich shows [8s 8c]
danielk86 shows [Qh As]
*** FLOP *** [6c Qc 3h]
*** TURN *** [6c Qc 3h] [7s]
*** RIVER *** [6c Qc 3h 7s] [5c]
LostOstrich shows a pair of Eights
danielk86 shows a pair of Queens
danielk86 wins the pot (4,800) with a pair of Queens
LostOstrich stands up


just wondering...do you think 4-bet shoving with 88 is +EV? Especially with having a decent chip stack and small blinds, do you think it was necessary to shove after a raise and re-raise, knowing the guy had already priced himself into a call, when at best you're hoping to be in as a coinflip?
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LostOstrich
Forum Ostrich


Joined: 11 Aug 2007
Posts: 3483
Location: PokerStars :(

PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't HAVE to shove there, I accept that. I made the move after considering the following:

- The initial EP raiser had already folded to a couple of 3-Bets. He's only calling here with a monster, and it's fair to assume that his opening range is pretty light.

- The re-raiser seems ultra-aggro pre-flop. He may well have the same read on the EP raiser as me, and his 3-Betting activity prior to this hand convinces me that I'm ahead of his range here.

- I mentioned that he is priced in to call. This is only a marginal call, however. 2-1 odds with AQos, for roughly 30% of his stack, is by no means a standard call in that spot. What i meant was, his 3-bet was silly because it made calling a shove from myself or the EP raiser worthy of consideration, given his hand. When I shoved, I didn't know his hand. He could be playing a lower pair, sooted connectors, total air. His AQos is still foldable here, but plenty of hands in his range will fold instantly.

Of course, a good proportion of his range also calls and crushes me. Plus there's the possibility that the original raiser is serious, and the fact that my M still exceeds 30. I'm not unhappy with my move there, but nor am I delighted with it. It was mostly based on my read of the 3-bettor.
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g_420man
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Location: My new forum title: Forum Dawg

PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good Luck in the main event.
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Anacondan
Straight


Joined: 12 Dec 2006
Posts: 112

PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

g_420man wrote:
Good Luck in the main event.



+1

Smile
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byamamoto1
Bay Area Bidness


Joined: 11 Aug 2005
Posts: 2189

PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anacondan wrote:
g_420man wrote:
Good Luck in the main event.



+1

Smile


+2
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LostOstrich
Forum Ostrich


Joined: 11 Aug 2007
Posts: 3483
Location: PokerStars :(

PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the support, guys. I'm really confident in my game right now, and all being well we'll get a good run in at least one of tonight's games.

I'll be signed in to AIM throughout the proceedings. If anyone wants to know my hole cards, thoughts etc then feel free to contact me. I'm LostOstrich1 on AIM.

It would be a great help if someone could talk me through the procedure for setting up a multi-way conversation on AIM, rather than having multiple windows though.
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BBCOACH44
Full Tilt Coach


Joined: 24 Oct 2006
Posts: 3308
Location: Baseball Field or Gym

PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good Luck Today..... Cool
I will try and join you in ME,
playing in the 1530 Sat. today..... Wink
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mzbuns
Fine Wine


Joined: 03 Jan 2006
Posts: 3816
Location: on the golf course in Buhl, ID

PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GL LO, Coach and anyone else playing in the ME!!
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mathman1115
Wizard of Odderation


Joined: 01 Sep 2005
Posts: 3049
Location: Land of the Fightin' Phillies

PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good Luck in the two FTOPS events LO. I have a good feeling about today........ Cool
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g_420man
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Location: My new forum title: Forum Dawg

PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BBCOACH44 wrote:
Good Luck Today..... Cool
I will try and join you in ME,
playing in the 1530 Sat. today..... Wink


good luck to you as well coach.
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live4freerolls
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Joined: 23 Nov 2006
Posts: 2289
Location: Running good.

PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish you the best today Mr. Lostrich Heart
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LostOstrich
Forum Ostrich


Joined: 11 Aug 2007
Posts: 3483
Location: PokerStars :(

PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not the best first hour of an MTT that I've ever experienced.

I'm still playing, but with half the chips I started out with. The good news is, the table is pretty soft, and I think I can fight my way back into this one.

slms747 has set up an AIM chatroom for this, so feel free to join in.
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mathman1115
Wizard of Odderation


Joined: 01 Sep 2005
Posts: 3049
Location: Land of the Fightin' Phillies

PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just got there for that QQ vs 55 (set) vs AA hand. WOW!
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