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Honest_Rob
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 Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 12:14 pm Post subject: AQs in BB vs raise & small re-raise |
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What's the best play here? No reads.
Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
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Hero (BB): $25.35
UTG: $6.05
UTG+1: $19.90
MP1: $5.10
MP2: $42.55
CO: $25.70
BTN: $83.85
SB: $17.25
Pre-Flop: A Q dealt to Hero (BB)
3 folds, MP2 raises to $0.85, CO folds, BTN raises to $2, SB folds, Hero ? |
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drtre1987
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| This looks like a pretty easy fold. Its FR and the original raiser is in MP, so this 3 bet is almost never a bluff. His range for 3 betting would have to be AQ+ and maybe TT+ or something depending on your opponent. I'd be more likely to say that most villians will 3 bet a much tighter range than that, like maybe JJ+ or QQ+. Your hand plays really bad against that range. You also have to worry about the original raiser having a hand too since he hasn't had a chance to react to the button's 3 bet. And on top of all that, you are OOP. Fold. |
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Honest_Rob
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| Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks. That's what I figured but when the situation came up I thought maybe because it's such a small 3 bet calling might be ok so I figured I'd post it. |
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gamblingparlour
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| I don't think it's an easy fold at all. There definitely on pockets, depending on how there table image is I would possibly call trying to hit the A or Q. |
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Riddim
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Snapfold and I don't think it's close at all until you have some reads telling you otherwise. |
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GoldenDomer9
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I agree with fold. I know it's hard because you're last to act, and up until it was your turn, you're probably admiring just how perdy your hand looks. Then it's an ultimate bummer when it's your turn and you don't even get to play it.
Damn shame imo. |
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bdbranch
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| gamblingparlour wrote: |
| I don't think it's an easy fold at all. There definitely on pockets, depending on how there table image is I would possibly call trying to hit the A or Q. |
And what happens when the original raiser reraises? And suppose that you beat the odds and hit one of your cards? Even your magical Ace isn't wonderful. And wonderful is what you would to call 20 times BB plus the possibility of another reraise preflop.
Easy - easy - easy fold. |
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Riddim
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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| bdbranch wrote: |
| And wonderful is what you would to call 20 times BB plus the possibility of another reraise preflop. |
Actually, 1.75/.25=7 afaik. |
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bdbranch
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Riddim wrote: |
| bdbranch wrote: |
| And wonderful is what you would to call 20 times BB plus the possibility of another reraise preflop. |
Actually, 1.75/.25=7 afaik. |
lol. Ok so I can't add. It's still a clear fold. |
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