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Badlydrawnboy
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| I'm calling this 100% of time, against anyone. You have a huge stack. Even if the odds are not quite good enough (but I think they are there, actually), I'm still calling this. |
I would fold because I have such a big stack. I would rather give my blind to him than give him some more chips to enable him to get back into the game. The guy is going to be eliminated soon, if we don't do it, Brian will. No need to give him extra chips, just wait patiently for a somewhat better hand, imo. |
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nilgiri
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Location: New Hampshire
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| Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 9:59 am Post subject: |
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| Badlydrawnboy wrote: |
| nilgiri wrote: |
| I'm calling this 100% of time, against anyone. You have a huge stack. Even if the odds are not quite good enough (but I think they are there, actually), I'm still calling this. |
I would fold because I have such a big stack. I would rather give my blind to him than give him some more chips to enable him to get back into the game. The guy is going to be eliminated soon, if we don't do it, Brian will. No need to give him extra chips, just wait patiently for a somewhat better hand, imo. |
If we fold, he is guaranteed to have ~1.5k chips. If we call, we have a chance to take him out (whatever chance that is), and only if we lose he will he have ~2k chips. Even if he has a 70% chance of winning (and I think that's high vs. his range), still, almost 1/3 of the time we take him out! And only a bit more than 2/3 of the time does he gain ~500 more chips than he would have had. |
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Sand Wedge_100
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| Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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| nilgiri is right here ATC. imo |
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dcdoorknob
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Location: Mississippi
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| Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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Hand #61
Full Tilt Poker $6 + $0.50 Sit & Go (Turbo) No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t250/t500 Blinds - 3 players
The Official Hand History
dcdoorknob (BB): t8934
Brian (BTN): t3531
Quagmire (SB): t1035
Pre Flop: dcdoorknob is BB with 9  4 
1 fold, Quagmire raises to t1035 all in, dcdoorknob calls t535
Flop: (t2070) Q T  7
Turn: (t2070) K
River: (t2070) 9
Final Pot: t2070
dcdoorknob shows 9c 4h (a pair of Nines)
Quagmire shows 2d 3h (King Queen high)
dcdoorknob wins t2070
Heads up!
Hand #62
Full Tilt Poker $6 + $0.50 Sit & Go (Turbo) No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t250/t500 Blinds - 2 players
The Official Hand History
dcdoorknob (BTN/SB): t9969
Brian (BB): t3531
Pre Flop: dcdoorknob is BTN/SB with Q K
dcdoorknob ??? |
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renegades8
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| Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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| I probably just shove here. Folding and calling seem to be out of the question. If you're going to raise, imo you might as well just shove to pick up as much fold equity as possible. That way you also avoid a tricky spot if he calls, and if he shoves it would have been better to be the one shoving. |
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nilgiri
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Location: New Hampshire
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| Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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Nice.
Shove that KQo. Blinds are too high to play anything but push/fold now, and KQo is a pushing hand! |
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goomlah
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Location: Chicago
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| Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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| No decision here. shove and hope he calls with kj |
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Badlydrawnboy
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| Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 12:42 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, shove.
With an even better hand like QQ KK or AA, I would complete the blind and try to trap him. But this hand is good enough to shove. |
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dcdoorknob
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Location: Mississippi
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| Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 1:54 am Post subject: |
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Hand #62
Full Tilt Poker $6 + $0.50 Sit & Go (Turbo) No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t250/t500 Blinds - 2 players
The Official Hand History
dcdoorknob (BTN/SB): t9969
Brian (BB): t3531
Pre Flop: dcdoorknob is BTN/SB with Q K
dcdoorknob raises to t9969 all in, 1 fold
Final Pot: t1000
dcdoorknob wins t1000
Hand #63
Full Tilt Poker $6 + $0.50 Sit & Go (Turbo) No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t250/t500 Blinds - 2 players
The Official Hand History
dcdoorknob (BB): t10469
Brian (BTN/SB): t3031
Pre Flop: dcdoorknob is BB with 7 5
Brian calls t250, dcdoorknob ???
Now here's a spot I haven't really figured out yet... how to react to a guy who should be in push/fold mode who is instead insisting on limping from the SB. If I have a decent hand I just push over the top, but what about a hand like 75o? |
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Badlydrawnboy
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| Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 3:46 am Post subject: |
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Your hand doesn't matter, imo. He makes a big mistake by letting you see a flop for free. So just check and watch the flop is what I would do.
You also said Brian has been kind of tight throughout the tourney, he has a marginal hand here I think and is afraid of raising against the big stack. |
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nilgiri
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Location: New Hampshire
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| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 9:56 am Post subject: |
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| dcdoorknob wrote: |
| Now here's a spot I haven't really figured out yet... how to react to a guy who should be in push/fold mode who is instead insisting on limping from the SB. If I have a decent hand I just push over the top, but what about a hand like 75o? |
I just check here, especially with no real reads on his HU game. |
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renegades8
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| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Just check imo. You've just started playing HU so you don't really know what kind of hands he's limping with, and if you double him up you're almost even. I'd also like to build up somewhat of a tight image so I can get some more fold equity on my shoves. |
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dcdoorknob
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| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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Hand #63
Full Tilt Poker $6 + $0.50 Sit & Go (Turbo) No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t250/t500 Blinds - 2 players
The Official Hand History
dcdoorknob (BB): t10469
Brian (BTN/SB): t3031
Pre Flop: dcdoorknob is BB with 7 5
Brian calls t250, dcdoorknob checks
Flop: (t1000) 9 A  A (2 players)
dcdoorknob checks, Brian bets t2531 all in, dcdoorknob folds
Final Pot: t1000
Brian wins t1000
Hand #64
Full Tilt Poker $6 + $0.50 Sit & Go (Turbo) No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t250/t500 Blinds - 2 players
The Official Hand History
dcdoorknob (BTN/SB): t9969
Brian (BB): t3531
Pre Flop: dcdoorknob is BTN/SB with 2 4
1 fold
Final Pot: t500
Brian wins t500
Hand #65
Full Tilt Poker $6 + $0.50 Sit & Go (Turbo) No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t250/t500 Blinds - 2 players
The Official Hand History
dcdoorknob (BB): t9719
Brian (BTN/SB): t3781
Pre Flop: dcdoorknob is BB with 9 T
Brian raises to t3781 all in, 1 fold
Final Pot: t1000
Brian wins t1000
Hand #66
Full Tilt Poker $6 + $0.50 Sit & Go (Turbo) No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t250/t500 Blinds - 2 players
The Official Hand History
dcdoorknob (BTN/SB): t9219
Brian (BB): t4281
Pre Flop: dcdoorknob is BTN/SB with 2 8
1 fold
Final Pot: t500
Brian wins t500
Hand #67
Full Tilt Poker $6 + $0.50 Sit & Go (Turbo) No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t250/t500 Blinds - 2 players
The Official Hand History
dcdoorknob (BB): t8969
Brian (BTN/SB): t4531
Pre Flop: dcdoorknob is BB with Q Q
1 fold
Final Pot: t500
dcdoorknob wins t500
Hand #68
Full Tilt Poker $6 + $0.50 Sit & Go (Turbo) No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t250/t500 Blinds - 2 players
The Official Hand History
dcdoorknob (BTN/SB): t9219
Brian (BB): t4281
Pre Flop: dcdoorknob is BTN/SB with J 5
dcdoorknob ???
Ok, skipped a few, and feel free to comment on any of the above hands. Anyone bet that flop w/ the 75? Call the shove with T9? Do something other than fold the 24o or 28o? Is there a way to get him to shove into our QQ instead of fold? (lol)
What about the J5s? |
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renegades8
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| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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All the previous hands seem standard, nothing I'd do differently.
I don't think we're really short enough to shove here, and folding seems kinda nitty. I don't really have a problem with limping with these stacks. |
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nilgiri
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Location: New Hampshire
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| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Earlier stuff looks fine. I fold that J5s. |
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