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Barleymalt · High Card Joined: 20 Feb 2006 Posts: 5

Its the first hand of a multi-table tourney (400+) and I open raise 4 times the BB from late position with 10/10. Both blinds fold and two people ahead of me flat call.

The flop comes 10, rag, rag with 2 clubs. Fist position to act makes a rather large raise (about 1/3 of her remaining stack) and the player behind her again flat calls.

I re-raise all in and both players call.

Cards are revealed and I am up against Q/Q and A/Q clubs.

Running clubs later I bust and my first instinct is to blame luck, but looking back I feel that I may have misplayed the hand.

Would it have been correct to flat call QQs raise knowing that I had the best hand. That way I could have sat on the draw and possibly folded my 10s had the club hit? If I had thought about it before I made my raise I would have realized that if the player in middle position had the flush draw (and suited high cards isnt an unreasonable hand to have at this point) there is a VERY good possibility that he will call since he has better than 3-1 on his money.

At a later stage in the tourney I will always play the hand the way I did, but since this was the first hand I feel I may have been a little too aggressive considering that both hands can bust me and that they have a combined 10 outs between then (I held 10c).

Any thoughts?

Jaconda78 · Message Board Junkie Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 4177

I don't think that giving away a cheap card for the club would be a good idea at all. You pushed hard, and got your money in with the best of it. That's exactly the way to play it.

jack-actionhero · Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 4:26 pm Post subject:

If you hadn't gone all-in right there you would have been giving a free shot at a nut flush that you couldn't guarantee the opponent already had. Some people fold in the face of an all-in that early when they're just on a draw. I say you made exactly the right move and got donked.

dkgojackets · Straight Flush Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 429

yep, all you can do is get your money in when you have the best hand. It would have been a mistake to bet less and not make them pay as much for the flush draw.

Beherit · Pair Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 22

Most of the time you're tripling up there.

_Xceptional · Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:10 am Post subject:

This sounds to me like a disguised bad beat thread. You got your money in with the nuts, do you think it was a bad play? There's no other way to play this hand. You played it fine. Move on.

Another thing...stop being so results oriented. Variance is a ****, it's gonna happen. Keep making these plays and you'll be a winning poker player.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT HAND OF THE TOURNAMENT IT IS...I cannot stress this enough...so many people say don't gamble early on and what not...that's a bunch of BS. Do you get prize money for finishing the first break with 1 chip?

I laughed when I read the part that said something like "should I have called the QQ, and knowing a club draw was 3:1" Are you kidding me? Why wouldn't you want to get your money in now? Unless you're fine with letting people draw on you.

Barleymalt · High Card Joined: 20 Feb 2006 Posts: 5

What I wanted to know was: at any time is it a good idea to play soft against a powerful draw when you are sure they will call any raise?

The consensus seems to be no.

_Xceptional · Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 8:55 pm Post subject:

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