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nittanyagent · Three of a Kind Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 85

Full Tilt Poker Game #6192387862: Table Grand Central - $0.25/$0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 1:03:57 ET - 2008/04/27
Seat 1: kelpiedog ($10.30)
Seat 2: NittanyAgent ($23.80)
Seat 3: troutbum-mt ($49.50)
Seat 4: scratchurhd2 ($24)
Seat 5: Krash927 ($19.40)
Seat 6: shots60 ($57.40), is sitting out
Seat 7: friscogiant25 ($31.15)
Seat 8: justblaze47 ($77)
Seat 9: piotrowski26 ($41)
troutbum-mt posts the small blind of $0.25
scratchurhd2 posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NittanyAgent [7h 7c 6h 9d]
Krash927 calls $0.50
friscogiant25 raises to $1.35
justblaze47 folds
piotrowski26 calls $1.35
kelpiedog calls $1.35
NittanyAgent calls $1.35
troutbum-mt folds
scratchurhd2 calls $0.85
Krash927 folds
*** FLOP *** [2s 7s Jd]
scratchurhd2 has 15 seconds left to act
scratchurhd2 bets $4.50
friscogiant25 calls $4.50
piotrowski26 folds
kelpiedog raises to $8.95, and is all in
NittanyAgent calls $8.95
scratchurhd2 has 15 seconds left to act
scratchurhd2 calls $4.45
friscogiant25 calls $4.45
*** TURN *** [2s 7s Jd] [2c]
scratchurhd2 has 15 seconds left to act
scratchurhd2 checks
friscogiant25 checks
NittanyAgent bets $13.50, and is all in
scratchurhd2 has 15 seconds left to act
scratchurhd2 raises to $13.70, and is all in
friscogiant25 folds
scratchurhd2 shows [Jh Tc Th Js]
kelpiedog shows [Ad Jc Kh 2d]
NittanyAgent shows [7h 7c 6h 9d]
Uncalled bet of $0.20 returned to scratchurhd2
*** RIVER *** [2s 7s Jd 2c] [8h]
scratchurhd2 shows a full house, Jacks full of Twos
NittanyAgent shows a full house, Sevens full of Twos
scratchurhd2 wins the side pot ($26.15) with a full house, Jacks full of Twos
kelpiedog shows a full house, Twos full of Jacks
scratchurhd2 wins the main pot ($41.15) with a full house, Jacks full of Twos
kelpiedog is sitting out
NittanyAgent is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $70.30 Main pot $43.30. Side pot $27. | Rake $3
Board: [2s 7s Jd 2c 8h]
Seat 1: kelpiedog showed [Ad Jc Kh 2d] and lost with a full house, Twos full of Jacks
Seat 2: NittanyAgent (button) showed [7h 7c 6h 9d] and lost with a full house, Sevens full of Twos
Seat 3: troutbum-mt (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: scratchurhd2 (big blind) showed [Jh Tc Th Js] and won ($67.30) with a full house, Jacks full of Twos
Seat 5: Krash927 folded before the Flop
Seat 6: shots60 is sitting out
Seat 7: friscogiant25 folded on the Turn
Seat 8: justblaze47 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: piotrowski26 folded on the Flop

sixandfour · Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:24 am Post subject:

I fold this to a raise PF. As played, you can't help getting coolered there... but that's precisely why you don't play this for a raise PF. Too often you will run into situations like this in Omaha.

goomlah · Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:52 pm Post subject:

6779 is not the worst call in the world. I'd call the raise for sure, but I'll be honest, I don't see how you call in that spot there. Someone has to have JJ in that spot with this many players in the pot in Omaha. If this is heads up, I move in and take my chances, but not 5 handed.

sixandfour · Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:57 am Post subject:

I shoulda read through this better. With all this action, I have to agree with goomlah here on the fold... shoulda read past the flop cards Embarassed

I still don't like the PF call though. In a multiway pot like this, the odds of you getting in trouble here is great. if you flop your set, it will likely not be top set, and filling your boat likewise can be easily second best if the board pairs above 7. If you flop the nut straight, any flush or board pair will likely make your hand second best (or worse). There's just too many ways to get hung up on a non-nut hand here, and in the long run, you'll lose more than you win. Had your table been conservative (a near impossibility in online Omaha, particularly at these stakes and under), it's a much more profitable hand, but racing 4 or 5 people with every draw in the book is just going to bleed you dry in a hurry.

Muskogee Mike · Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:27 am Post subject:

I play mostly Limit O8B, but I fold this PF. As mentioned before, set mining with low to medium cards is a bad idea. It is just too likely someone will hit a higher set.

In fact, set mining in Omaha in general can be dangerous. In HE, if you hit a set, you will most likely win. But in Omaha, you will often run into a straight, flush, or full house.

Had your other two cards been better, you might could make the PF call. Say for instance you held A Heart

K

7

, then I think you can call the raise. And of course if you held A Heart

A

or K

K

with your 7s, then you could definitely make the call PF.

As played, I think you have to either fold or push all-in on the flop. Smooth-calling here is just too dangerous. You don't want to see another spade, Jack, or even a 2. Reading through the HH, I was more worried about J-2 than J-J. Regardless, you want to push out anyone with 2 pair or a flush draw. Taking the pot down right there would have been nice. However, that wasn't going to happen here.

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