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cubbies760 Next Year Is Here
Joined: 19 Oct 2006 Posts: 5934 Location: Suburban Chicago
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:28 pm Post subject: Critique on 6 stud hands, please? |
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To be honest, this was the Forum Weekly....so I was only 1/2 paying attention, so I'm basically only playing my cards/my opponents' boards.
Absolutely no reads, except that FireandFold is super-aggressive.
I'm wondering about how aggressive (or lack of it) I should be in these hands. I'll highlight my thoughts along the way....feel free to comment. I've removed the Ante portion of the HHs to neaten things up. I couldn't find a hand converter for Stud Hi.....are there any?
Hand #1
Full Tilt Poker Game #5831310160: FTP Forum Weekly (43990854), Table 1 - 120/240 Ante 20 - Limit Stud Hi - 17:12:05 ET - 2008/03/29
Seat 1: cubbies760 (4,090)
Seat 2: gonefshng (3,915)
Seat 3: g_420man (1,427)
Seat 4: I Eat Poison (2,042)
Seat 5: LyndaNova (4,454)
Seat 6: sixandfour (1,779)
Seat 8: nIce cAtchMoron (1,534)
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to cubbies760 [Jc Qc] [Qh]
Dealt to gonefshng [2s]
Dealt to g_420man [Th]
Dealt to I Eat Poison [4d]
Dealt to LyndaNova [4h]
Dealt to sixandfour [6d]
Dealt to nIce cAtchMoron [6s]
gonefshng is low with [2s]
gonefshng brings in for 40
g_420man folds
I Eat Poison folds
LyndaNova folds
sixandfour completes it to 120
nIce cAtchMoron folds
cubbies760 raises to 240 ....the villians all have rags
gonefshng folds
sixandfour calls 120
*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to cubbies760 [Jc Qc Qh] [5c]
Dealt to sixandfour [6d] [2h]
cubbies760 bets 120 ....I'm still ahead
sixandfour calls 120
*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to cubbies760 [Jc Qc Qh 5c] [Tc]
Dealt to sixandfour [6d 2h] [2c]
sixandfour checks
cubbies760 checks ....Do I continue betting here?
*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to cubbies760 [Jc Qc Qh 5c Tc] [Ad]
Dealt to sixandfour [6d 2h 2c] [8h]
sixandfour checks
cubbies760 bets 240
sixandfour calls 240 ....confused, lol
*** 7TH STREET ***
Dealt to cubbies760 [Jc Qc Qh 5c Tc Ad] [3d]
sixandfour checks
cubbies760 checks ....still confused
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Hand #2
Full Tilt Poker Game #5831389789: FTP Forum Weekly (43990854), Table 3 - 150/300 Ante 25 - Limit Stud Hi - 17:18:38 ET - 2008/03/29
Seat 1: KronX (3,753)
Seat 2: DINGO8MYBABY (4,064)
Seat 3: spike420211 (4,661)
Seat 4: FireandFold (4,642)
Seat 5: cubbies760 (4,725)
Seat 8: rdr910 (2,190)
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to KronX [Qs]
Dealt to DINGO8MYBABY [4c]
Dealt to spike420211 [7d]
Dealt to FireandFold [Ks]
Dealt to cubbies760 [5d Qc] [Ad]
Dealt to rdr910 [Js]
DINGO8MYBABY is low with [4c]
DINGO8MYBABY brings in for 50
spike420211 folds
FireandFold completes it to 150
cubbies760 folds ....he's been super-aggressive, looking for a better spot
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Hand #3
Full Tilt Poker Game #5831478367: FTP Forum Weekly (43990854), Table 3 - 150/300 Ante 25 - Limit Stud Hi - 17:25:58 ET - 2008/03/29
Seat 1: KronX (3,803)
Seat 2: DINGO8MYBABY (5,014)
Seat 3: spike420211 (5,061)
Seat 4: FireandFold (4,042)
Seat 5: cubbies760 (4,725)
Seat 6: 13 HELLBILLY (2,587)
Seat 7: chsvu88 (2,462)
Seat 8: rdr910 (1,390)
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to KronX [7h]
Dealt to DINGO8MYBABY [Tc]
Dealt to spike420211 [9h]
Dealt to FireandFold [3d]
Dealt to cubbies760 [Th Jc] [9s]
Dealt to 13 HELLBILLY [6c]
Dealt to chsvu88 [3h]
Dealt to rdr910 [2c]
rdr910 is low with [2c]
rdr910 brings in for 50
KronX folds
DINGO8MYBABY completes it to 150
spike420211 folds
FireandFold folds
cubbies760 folds ....Do I take a card here?
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Hand #4
Full Tilt Poker Game #5831483513: FTP Forum Weekly (43990854), Table 3 - 150/300 Ante 25 - Limit Stud Hi - 17:26:26 ET - 2008/03/29
Seat 1: KronX (3,778)
Seat 2: DINGO8MYBABY (5,239)
Seat 3: spike420211 (5,036)
Seat 4: FireandFold (4,017)
Seat 5: cubbies760 (4,700)
Seat 6: 13 HELLBILLY (2,562)
Seat 7: chsvu88 (2,437)
Seat 8: rdr910 (1,315)
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to KronX [3d]
Dealt to DINGO8MYBABY [Qc]
Dealt to spike420211 [Kh]
Dealt to FireandFold [Qd]
Dealt to cubbies760 [Ac 5c] [Kd]
Dealt to 13 HELLBILLY [2h]
Dealt to chsvu88 [Kc]
Dealt to rdr910 [3c]
13 HELLBILLY is low with [2h]
13 HELLBILLY has 15 seconds left to act
13 HELLBILLY brings in for 50
chsvu88 completes it to 150
rdr910 folds
KronX folds
DINGO8MYBABY folds
spike420211 raises to 300
FireandFold folds
cubbies760 folds ....seems like an easy fold
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Hand #5
Full Tilt Poker Game #5831606775: FTP Forum Weekly (43990854), Table 3 - 200/400 Ante 30 - Limit Stud Hi - 17:36:45 ET - 2008/03/29
Seat 1: KronX (3,123)
Seat 2: DINGO8MYBABY (4,884)
Seat 3: spike420211 (4,441)
Seat 4: FireandFold (5,814)
Seat 5: cubbies760 (5,525)
Seat 6: 13 HELLBILLY (2,527)
Seat 7: chsvu88 (2,770)
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to KronX [2c]
Dealt to DINGO8MYBABY [5s]
Dealt to spike420211 [6h]
Dealt to FireandFold [6d]
Dealt to cubbies760 [Td Tc] [4d]
Dealt to 13 HELLBILLY [3c]
Dealt to chsvu88 [As]
KronX is low with [2c]
KronX brings in for 50
DINGO8MYBABY folds
spike420211 folds
FireandFold folds
cubbies760 completes it to 200
13 HELLBILLY folds
chsvu88 calls 200
KronX folds
*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to cubbies760 [Td Tc 4d] [Kc]
Dealt to chsvu88 [As] [7h]
chsvu88 bets 200
cubbies760 calls 200 ....if he had aces, he 3-bets on 3rd
*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to cubbies760 [Td Tc 4d Kc] [9s]
Dealt to chsvu88 [As 7h] [4s]
chsvu88 bets 400
cubbies760 folds ....maybe I was wrong about that read, lol
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Hand #6
I'm really interested in all feedback on this hand. It's possibly a huge turning point in this tourney.
Should I have been pushing this so hard on 3rd, and betting all the way down?
Full Tilt Poker Game #5831775385: FTP Forum Weekly (43990854), Table 3 - 300/600 Ante 50 - Limit Stud Hi - 17:50:33 ET - 2008/03/29
Seat 2: DINGO8MYBABY (5,194)
Seat 3: spike420211 (3,051)
Seat 4: FireandFold (3,929)
Seat 5: cubbies760 (4,240)
Seat 6: 13 HELLBILLY (6,612)
Seat 7: chsvu88 (4,100)
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to DINGO8MYBABY [7h]
Dealt to spike420211 [9s]
Dealt to FireandFold [5d]
Dealt to cubbies760 [9h Ad] [As]
Dealt to 13 HELLBILLY [Kh]
Dealt to chsvu88 [5c]
chsvu88 is low with [5c]
chsvu88 brings in for 100
DINGO8MYBABY has 15 seconds left to act
DINGO8MYBABY folds
spike420211 folds
FireandFold completes it to 300
cubbies760 raises to 600 ...thin the field, I wanna go HU with aces
13 HELLBILLY raises to 900 ....(WTF?)
chsvu88 folds
FireandFold folds
cubbies760 raises to 1,200 ....gotta be kings
13 HELLBILLY calls 300
*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to cubbies760 [9h Ad As] [Kc]
Dealt to 13 HELLBILLY [Kh] [Ac]
cubbies760 bets 300
13 HELLBILLY calls 300
*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to cubbies760 [9h Ad As Kc] [Qd]
Dealt to 13 HELLBILLY [Kh Ac] [2h]
cubbies760 bets 600
13 HELLBILLY calls 600
*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to cubbies760 [9h Ad As Kc Qd] [Jh]
Dealt to 13 HELLBILLY [Kh Ac 2h] [Jd]
cubbies760 bets 600
13 HELLBILLY calls 600
*** 7TH STREET ***
Dealt to cubbies760 [9h Ad As Kc Qd Jh] [Jc]
cubbies760 bets 600
13 HELLBILLY calls 600
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walter3215 Full House
Joined: 20 Feb 2007 Posts: 211 Location: wtby
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 5:03 am Post subject: |
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#1 opp has a6 or k6
#2 right move
#3 no
#4 yes
#5 opp has 2 spades under and stole it
#6 yes & yes |
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cubbies760 Next Year Is Here
Joined: 19 Oct 2006 Posts: 5934 Location: Suburban Chicago
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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mathman1115 Wizard of Odderation
Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Posts: 2762 Location: Land of the Fightin' Phillies
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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Hand 1 - The check on 5th is ok. I'd take the free card on sixth as well. You have lots of outs, and he likely has some type of pair in the hole.
Hand 2 - with a Q dead, its close. You can make an argument for folding, calling, or raising here.
Hand 3 - Fold. Not enough players in to draw to the str8, and a 9 and T are dead.
Hand 4 - It seems like an easy fold because it is. Your Ks are virtually dead, and its too expensive to chase an A.
Hand 5 - Your guess is as good as mine. With the field already thinned, he could be slowplaying a pair of Aces.
Hand 6 - well played, you have a better two pair. |
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Honest_Rob Postmaster General
Joined: 21 Jul 2005 Posts: 4999 Location: trying to get back to even
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 12:05 am Post subject: |
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Hand 1: Either switch your 5th and 6th street actions or just check both.
Hand 2: Just how aggresive? If he's stealing every pot then raise here. Even if he's just moderately aggriesive a raise here is ok. Folding is ok too. I'd probably raise more often though. Don't call in his spot.
Hand 3: Fold. If you were suited then take a card. Plus some of your pair outs are dead.
Hand 4: Fold all day then wake up in the middle of the night and fold again imo.
Hand 5: I doubt he's slowplaying aces here. Most people jus wouldn'do that but that comes down to your individual read on that player. I think it's more likely he has a four flush or some kind of pockert pair. It's tough to advocate a play without any reads but I'd probably call down on 5th then reevaluate.
Hand 6: You played it fine. If you lost the hand oh well it happens sometimes. |
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cubbies760 Next Year Is Here
Joined: 19 Oct 2006 Posts: 5934 Location: Suburban Chicago
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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byamamoto1 Bay Area Bidness
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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1st hand: i like leading 5th for value. you've got a 4 flush, 3 straight and not to mention what could still possibly be good in a pair of Q's. i lead 5th with this hand almost 95% of the time.
2nd hand: i'm fine with a fold here. theres already a dead Q and a couple of your backdoor straight cards are out there as well.
3rd hand: standard fold, imo. 3 straights are way over rated, and even more so with some of your pair cards being out there.
4th hand: easy fold. even your backdoor clubs are gone and with that kind of action to you, its a no brainer fold.
5th hand: with most wired pairs, if live, i'll usually call to 5th and re-evaluate. the implied odds on getting paid on a set are great in stud and if you can stay in for small bets till 5th then by all means do so. in this particular hand it looks as it is highly unlikely he played an A that way. i might be inclined to call 5th then re-evaluate on 6th. remember you are showing a 4 door card and lots of bad will not give you any credit here for a pair of T's + in the hole.
6th hand: no complaints, nh. |
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Strasse Forum Ego
Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 3571 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Hand 1: Bet 5th for value, and also because he could have started w/ a 3 to a draw, and bricked and will just fold his pair of 2s. If he calls 5th and you dont improve 6th, check behind him. Check on 7th w/ no improvement also.
Hand 2: Easy fold
Hand 3: Everyone has low cards so I'm taking a card in this spot. Maybe even two if I think I can outplay this guy.
Hand 4: Easy fold
Hand 5: I am raising 4th to see what he does. If he reraises or calls and leads 5th I'm dropping ship. If he calls and checks, I'm betting 5th also. Its likely he's just betting into you since you have a 4 door card and he is too dense to realize there is a such thing as buried pairs.
Hand 6: Good play throughout. |
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