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fiddlepuck · Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 9:31 am Post subject:

ALL I WANTED TO KNOW IS AT WHAT LEVEL FULL BUY IN 1.8:1 CHASES become less the norm, and more the rarity.

thats the only kind of answer I am looking for. if I called full buy ins on a wish and a prayer, id be broke. You know it. Everyone who reads this knows it. You guys have just decided to be agro for some reason.

and if played as you guys would suggest, Id have played 0 out of the last 474 hands, since I havent had a top 20 hand. And I wouldnt be up a full buy in, after starting out down a full buy in. The fact is I called with a marginal hand against a player who had routinely been showing he was raising weakly. I made this call specifically against this specific player. No other. He happened to have a hand that time. He had raised 5 of the last 7 hands. and had oflded on the turn on 4 of them. its not as horrible a call as it looks, and you guys know it.

I played 500 hands tonight. I saw a flop 17% of the time. I won 70% of the hands I played. I dont play as bad as you guys are suggesting.

DJ Ninjah · Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 9:32 am Post subject:

Lol, I play 27/21 and I still wouldn't call JTo there. Move to 100nl 6-max on FTP please.

Big Slick x13x · Forum Icon Joined: 18 Jun 2006 Posts: 4117 Location: ROK

First I'll say that thinking will prevail over push and pray at every level. At the lower limits there is just more variance because there's more people praying.

sixandfour · Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 10:37 am Post subject:

yeah, WE went agro Rolling Eyes

I'll even answer your question. Never do people stop chasing. There's always some idiot with more money than sense. Every day some banker who doesn't remember whether a flush beats a straight or the other way round is going to deposit 1K and jump right on the $5/10 table. Enjoy the fact that they're around because long term, you'll be richer for it. Over time, you'll lose some of your Hellmuth and be able to accept the bad with the good.

mathman1115 · Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 11:39 am Post subject:

DJ Ninjah · Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 12:44 pm Post subject:

fiddlepuck · Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 3:03 pm Post subject:

Mathman... thx for the nice response. Why do i want to play against superior players???

By Practicing against better players, you become better. Guess I'm looking for a challenge first, fun second, profit third. While at the same time don't want to get too far over my head.

big-boy-ramsey · Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 3:37 pm Post subject:

I basically asked the same question but my thread was at what point does the bluff become a tool you can use.

My solution became to go back and shore up my own game and the pray for the longshot calls.And you will get them at all levels,and yes,sometimes they catch,i think we remember these times alot more than the times they dont.

youlovedonkeys · High Card Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Posts: 6

so far, big slick, ninja, sixandfour, and mathman have give great and thoughtful responses. for that and for your other responses thank you. fiddlepuck, it seems to me that all you do in your posts is pick fights with the other posters. If you want to play against better players feel free to move up to the 25/50 Cole would love to take your money. But if you want to have fun, play against better players and make a profit at the same time, sit at my table any time. (not be a jerk, but you talk too much and agrue too many points to make responding further to you worth helping others.

IMHO

airc25 · High Card Joined: 05 Mar 2008 Posts: 5

a 3 outer. You are not talking about the guy with 9 outs for the flush are you. that is about 32% chance of hitting after the flop. So any ways you are mad becuase he mad the wrong play and it worked out for him. I have seen alot of wrong plays and I dont think that that is a big one there. Everyone online makes that play and brick and mortar too. A bad play would be when you call a donk BECAUSE he is a donk, and then get mad becuase he is a DONK. Donks are the reason you can make money playing poker. And yes, not running good is alot better than running bad. I have had 10 sets in a day of cards and had to rebuy after 4 of them. I have hit nut flushes only to have a donk call with TPTK and hit rr full house. That is were you are running good but just not good enough. So when the post was made about you running good. Not getting hit hard with those 3 or 4 sets you had WAS running good. Your here to find flaws? It doesn't sound like it.

PokerJessO · Straight Flush Joined: 28 Jun 2007 Posts: 401

rldcakqj10 · Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:30 am Post subject:

.....wow...........w....ooooooo.....w!! Sorry guys im speechless, cant finish this reply/plus im late as H#LL...bye now!

FlopDog7 · Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:51 pm Post subject:

My Dogish opinion (I ain't no expert):

Hand1- I often find playing hard with bottom 2 pair to be quite dangerous. If he's already paired the top, and the board pairs or he pairs his other card you are dead. I see that happen a lot. Plus, people know they have 9 outs on a flush draw (about 3:1 odds), and often gamble with it (you said you just saw him do that). With his AQs, I think he put you on top pair, and thought he had 6 more outs. His big raise was probably a semi-bluff, and he thought you would fold. I'll bet he was surprised you called, despite the pot odds.

Hand2- I think both players played as might be expected. You effectively trapped with your trips, he play hard with his AA, although if he was smarter, he would have at least seriously thought about you having a J before calling with the rest of his stack.

For what it's worth, my analysis is probably full of holes (like my game Laughing

), lol.

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