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spike420211
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 Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 12:48 am Post subject: good low starters in early position |
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Full Tilt Poker Game #5272694023: Table Kinley - $0.10/$0.25 - Pot Limit Omaha H/L - 0:23:49 ET - 2008/02/16
Seat 1: LADYNTRAININ ($16.45)
Seat 2: Bobcat Davis ($36.50)
Seat 3: spillage ($25.05)
Seat 4: sesha2 ($7.30)
Seat 5: JimTin8 ($4.25)
Seat 6: maddogMD ($16.70)
Seat 7: gcreid52 ($58.20)
Seat 8: AllEeenBaby ($24.75)
Seat 9: spike420211 ($25)
AllEeenBaby posts the small blind of $0.10
spike420211 posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to spike420211 [Ah 3d 2d 5c]
LADYNTRAININ folds
Bobcat Davis folds
spillage has 15 seconds left to act
spillage folds
sesha2 calls $0.25
JimTin8 calls $0.25
maddogMD folds
gcreid52 folds
AllEeenBaby has 15 seconds left to act
AllEeenBaby folds
spike420211 has 15 seconds left to act
spike420211 raises to $0.50
sesha2 calls $0.25
JimTin8 calls $0.25
A23x is a premium lo... but it IS a lo...
and I am out of position.... and it IS P/L.
My question is: is this usually a viable raising/re-raising hand?
If so, am I trying to:
>thin the field?
>build the pot?
note:rest of hand shown for entertainment purposes only.
your pwnage may vary.
*** FLOP *** [Jd Jh 3c]
spike420211 checks
sesha2 checks
JimTin8 checks
*** TURN *** [Jd Jh 3c] [3h]
spike420211 bets $0.80
sesha2 folds
JimTin8 folds
Uncalled bet of $0.80 returned to spike420211
spike420211 shows [Ah 3d 2d 5c] three of a kind, Threes, for high
spike420211 wins the pot ($1.55)  |
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audsb
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| Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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| How much more thinning of the field are you going for? There are only 2 other callers at this point. |
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Zophar
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| Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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Pot limit I don't like raising out of the blinds much at all for this specific reason. If I do, it's only a small raise like you did.
I'm raising this from UTG-OTB for value 95% of the time(the other 5% I'm raising to isolate, but those are unique situations for another time). I'm calling any raise from any position as well. Occasionally I'm reraising, but again that falls under the unique isolation circumstance.
As played, I'm betting this flop, not turn. The value of your hand is as irrelevent on the turn as it is on the flop and the only thing likely calling/raising behind you here is a J or over pair. Your opponents ranges will be defined immediately.
As an example, if I'm holding AJXX or KJXX here, I'm checking right behind if you check. No matter what card hits next I'm potting almost everytime. With the 3 falling I'm even more excited to see you lead out because I can either smooth call/VB or pot river, small reraise/VB or pot river, pot it/VB or pot river. I have a good idea where you stand, yet you have a much lesser idea of where I stand.
If you lead out, I have to define my hand a little quicker and you're less likely to get further attached to the hand, which will save you bets. |
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spike420211
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| Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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| audsb wrote: |
| How much more thinning of the field are you going for? There are only 2 other callers at this point. |
audsb, this being omaha/8... you're thinning all the way to heads-up or a pot-steal... sometimes you want a crack @ the nut low yourself.
limit or pot-limit, 3-handed is reeeal spooky if you're primarily going low.
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Pot limit I don't like raising out of the blinds much at all for this specific reason. If I do, it's only a small raise like you did.
I'm raising this from UTG-OTB for value 95% of the time(the other 5% I'm raising to isolate, but those are unique situations for another time). I'm calling any raise from any position as well. Occasionally I'm reraising, but again that falls under the unique isolation circumstance.
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At least I've been on the right path... i just never had it fully rationalized.
My philosophy has somewhat evolved for PLO/8.
Seems to be the best game for securing bonus$ and ftp's.
And as an added plus... if i don't get too stupid, a little profit as well. |
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