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spike420211
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:06 pm    Post subject: no business even BEING @ these limits... but wtf Reply with quote

not to mention how short-handed it got:

Full Tilt Poker Game #3684139399: Table Commerce - $8/$16 Ante $1.50 - Limit Stud H/L - 1:40:12 ET - 2007/09/27
Seat 1: NoBricks ($529)
Seat 2: mdtchoper ($116.50), is sitting out
Seat 3: spike420211 ($173.50)
Seat 5: JoeYoungJR ($458.50)
Seat 6: LethalDice ($170)
Seat 8: joedirt350 ($0), is sitting out
spike420211 antes $1.50
JoeYoungJR antes $1.50
LethalDice antes $1.50
NoBricks antes $1.50
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to NoBricks [Ad]
Dealt to spike420211 [Js Jc] [Qs]
Dealt to JoeYoungJR [4h]
Dealt to LethalDice [3c]
LethalDice is low with [3c]
LethalDice brings in for $2
NoBricks completes it to $8
spike420211 calls $8
JoeYoungJR calls $8
LethalDice calls $6
*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to NoBricks [Ad] [8s]
Dealt to spike420211 [Js Jc Qs] [Qc]
Dealt to JoeYoungJR [4h] [5c]
Dealt to LethalDice [3c] [3d]
spike420211 bets $8
JoeYoungJR calls $8
LethalDice calls $8
NoBricks calls $8
*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to NoBricks [Ad 8s] [2s]
Dealt to spike420211 [Js Jc Qs Qc] [Qd]
Dealt to JoeYoungJR [4h 5c] [8h]
Dealt to LethalDice [3c 3d] [4c]
spike420211 bets $16
joedirt350 stands up
JoeYoungJR calls $16
LethalDice calls $16
NoBricks calls $16
*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to NoBricks [Ad 8s 2s] [3s]
Dealt to spike420211 [Js Jc Qs Qc Qd] [4s]
Dealt to JoeYoungJR [4h 5c 8h] [Th]
Dealt to LethalDice [3c 3d 4c] [9h]
spike420211 bets $16
JoeYoungJR has 15 seconds left to act
JoeYoungJR folds
LethalDice folds
NoBricks raises to $32
spike420211 calls $16
*** 7TH STREET ***
Dealt to spike420211 [Js Jc Qs Qc Qd 4s] [2d]
spike420211 checks
NoBricks checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
NoBricks shows [Ac Td Ad 8s 2s 3s 5s] a pair of Aces, for high and 8,5,3,2,A, for low
spike420211 shows [Js Jc Qs Qc Qd 4s 2d] a full house, Queens full of Jacks, for high
spike420211 wins the high pot ($98) with a full house, Queens full of Jacks
NoBricks wins the low pot ($98) with 8,5,3,2,A
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $198 | Rake $2
Seat 1: NoBricks showed [Ac Td Ad 8s 2s 3s 5s] and won ($98) with HI: a pair of Aces; LO: 8,5,3,2,A
Seat 2: mdtchoper is sitting out
Seat 3: spike420211 showed [Js Jc Qs Qc Qd 4s 2d] and won ($98) with HI: a full house, Queens full of Jacks

OK, the third street call mighta been a bit lame... i'm just wondering if
i was too agressive on 5th, 6th, or 7th...all those potential lows...droool
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thomsen6
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Joined: 19 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no comments on your play. Im just starting to learn how to play stud H/L.

But I dont get why Nobricks reraise u on 6th with only a pair of Aces and a low draw. When u are showing QQQ. Why does he do that? Is there any valid reason for doing so. And if so, can anybody explain?
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HuJwang
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Location: Halifax, NS

PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thomsen6 wrote:
I have no comments on your play. Im just starting to learn how to play stud H/L.

But I dont get why Nobricks reraise u on 6th with only a pair of Aces and a low draw. When u are showing QQQ. Why does he do that? Is there any valid reason for doing so. And if so, can anybody explain?


My guess is he got the T on 7th and started with A5/A. He raises because he knows that spike can't have a low hand, so he is sure to win at least half the pot. If spike doesn't have a boat, Nobricks is freerolling with a flushdraw + gutshot. If spike has the boat, the pot gets chopped anyway so it doesn't matter. Definitely a good raise on his part.

I don't really know why he doesn't bet on 7th street, since he has low locked up. Even if there's only a 0.1% chance his opponent folds, it's still a +EV bet, since the rake is capped out at this point anyway.
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thomsen6
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
My guess is he got the T on 7th and started with A5/A.

Okay I was under the impression that the start hand was A10/A, and then u have to agree that a reraise with only pair of Aces, and a low draw is a bad idea.
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HuJwang
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thomsen6 wrote:
Quote:
My guess is he got the T on 7th and started with A5/A.

Okay I was under the impression that the start hand was A10/A, and then u have to agree that a reraise with only pair of Aces, and a low draw is a bad idea.
Obviously.
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inabunnysuit
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3rd : not too loose. It's 4 handed.
5th : good bet.
6th : Check-call. Put yourself in their shoes (Joe and Lethal). Are you really calling a bet, then up to 3 more to draw to half the pot? Bricks has to bet to charge worse lows to draw. Since half the pot is probably gone, give the other players the best odds to draw. You don't care who gets the other half, just that your half is as big as possible. Maybe Bricks is on a semibluff with trips or a flush and you'll price the draws into half the pot. You want to take that chance.
7th : Bad check from him, worse check from you. He KNOWS he's splitting the pot. AFAYK, he was rolled up and missed (or has AsKsTs or something). Bet-call is your line.
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spike420211
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

7th:point well taken, bunnysuit... then again, how much rake does FTP NEED
from me???
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HuJwang
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spike420211 wrote:
7th:point well taken, bunnysuit... then again, how much rake does FTP NEED
from me???
It's 4-handed so the rake is capped at $2. No rake is taken past the point where the pot is $40, and it's almost that big on 3rd street.. If you were playing micros, on the other hand, then you might have a point, though the rake isn't usually big enough to have that much of an effect.
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spike420211
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thx, HuJuang

Is there a rake schedule for cash games posted somewhere on this site?
i know stars has one...

edit:rake schedule bookmarked, thx again, HuJuang


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HuJwang
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/rake.php
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Buzzbball06
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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