| Is razz a form or poker or a form of stud? |
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NoobiePants
Three of a Kind
Joined: 23 Sep 2007
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 Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:56 pm Post subject: IS RAZZ DEFINITELY A FORM OF POKER? |
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I thought poker always used the hand ranking system (e.g. pair, trips, straight, flush, fullhouse etc), but razz doesn't.
So is razz definitely a form of POKER, or is it just a form of STUD?
I do like razz, but I'm just wanting some opinions. |
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smurfberry
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Joined: 29 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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Of course razz uses the normal poker ranking system. I think you are misunderstanding the rules to think that Razz doesn't rankings. It's just that Razz (like Omaha hi/lo and stud hi/lo) doesn't count straights and flushes against the hand.
Of course, now that I think of it, I bet 2-7 Razz would be quite fun. |
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duelindalton
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Joined: 30 Mar 2006
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Location: Tampa
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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Razz is a variation of 7 card stud poker, as is :
Baseball
Midnight Baseball
No-peek Baseball
High Chicago
Low Chicago
Stud H/L
Follow the Queen
Low hole
Low hole roll your own
etc...
and the list goes on.
Most of these games are usually only played in home games, due to the fact they involve wild cards.
Pair, 2-pair, trips, full house, str8, flush, quads, str8 flush, and even 5 of a kind are all poker hands but they are not all involved in every poker game, so I dont think it makes a game without all the hands any less a form of poker than the next. As always just my opinion. |
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Zophar
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Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Razz falls under the stud category for the way it's dealt, but follows lowball rules. Stud and lowball are both forms of poker, so obviously Razz is as well. |
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looseandontilt
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Takes a real stud to know what he's doing with his hands |
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NoobiePants
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Joined: 23 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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| So what exactly is poker then? Razz might be considered just another card game, similar to stud, but lowball, but does that define it as "poker"? |
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quick98ta
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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| I think its a form of both its stud poker so i cant really vote. |
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looseandontilt
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acornsnuts
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Joined: 11 Nov 2007
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Location: Chicago
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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| If razz is a form of stud and stud is a form of poker, then wouldnt razz be a form of poker? |
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NoobiePants
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Joined: 23 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:47 am Post subject: |
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| Stud is a form of poker, razz is a form of stud. That doesn't mean razz is a form of poker. Its like saying poker is a form of stud? lol |
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danomatic
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Joined: 01 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:17 am Post subject: |
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Webster's definition for poker:
n. Any of various card games played by two or more players who bet on the value of their hands.
stud is simply how the cards are dealt, one or two face down first then a series of one card, many times the last card is also face down. (depending on 5 card or 7 card stud)
So I guess it would be both, it is a form of poker, more specifically stud poker. |
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beloved_ltd
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Joined: 05 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Stud is a form of poker, razz is a form of stud. That doesn't mean razz is a form of poker. Its like saying poker is a form of stud? lol |
That's the worst use of misguided logic I've seen in a very long time.
Razz is a form of stud - stud is a variant of poker.
If you like:
Razz << stud << poker where << means is contained within.
Razz is a smaller group than stud because it is only one type of stud.
Stud is a smaller group than poker because stud is only one variant of poker.
Notice the way the arrows go - you could never say it means poker is a form of stud because the implication is going the wrong way.
Or - do you think that poker means hold'em? |
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PokerAA
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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Doesn't matter because either way I will be taking your money at the tables.. 
And tilt it off to someone else.
I agree that stud is a form of poker and razz is a form of stud making razz a form of poker as well. |
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