Online Poker Forum at Full Tilt Poker   FAQ   Search    Register   Profile  Log in to check your private messages  Log in  Online Poker Forum - Razz question          Online Poker Forum Home -> Razz Author Message alanchiras High Card Joined: 10 Aug 2007 Posts: 17 Location: Key West, Florida Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 5:19 pm    Post subject: Razz question If your finished hand has only 4 or fewer types of cards at showdown, are you not able to win the pot? If no one has five different cards at showdown, what happens??? Thanks! Alan Chiras. Back to top jacksquat97 Pair Joined: 30 Aug 2007 Posts: 22 Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:28 pm    Post subject: I have no idea what the heck you're talking about when you say card types unless you're referring to having pairs. But yes, you can win with a pair as long as you have the lowest pair or your pair matches his pair and you kicker is lower. Back to top alanchiras High Card Joined: 10 Aug 2007 Posts: 17 Location: Key West, Florida Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:57 pm    Post subject: But what if my hand was 2-2-3-3-4-4-5? I only have 2-3-4-5. Not enough different cards to have five different cards for a st8. Can I not win? Thanks! Alan Chiras. Back to top jbrennen Straight Flush Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 422 Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:12 pm    Post subject: alanchiras wrote: But what if my hand was 2-2-3-3-4-4-5? I only have 2-3-4-5. Not enough different cards to have five different cards for a st8. Can I not win? Thanks! Alan Chiras. Your hand would play as 2-2-5-4-3. You would beat any hand of 2-2-6-3-A or worse. You would lose to any hand of 2-2-5-4-A or better, which would include hands like A-A-A-A-K-Q-J (which plays as A-A-K-Q-J) or K-K-K-Q-J-T-9 (which plays as K-Q-J-T-9). Back to top alanchiras High Card Joined: 10 Aug 2007 Posts: 17 Location: Key West, Florida Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:39 am    Post subject: jbrennen wrote: alanchiras wrote: But what if my hand was 2-2-3-3-4-4-5? I only have 2-3-4-5. Not enough different cards to have five different cards for a st8. Can I not win? Thanks! Alan Chiras. Your hand would play as 2-2-5-4-3. You would beat any hand of 2-2-6-3-A or worse. You would lose to any hand of 2-2-5-4-A or better, which would include hands like A-A-A-A-K-Q-J (which plays as A-A-K-Q-J) or K-K-K-Q-J-T-9 (which plays as K-Q-J-T-9). I need to understsnd this much more. I'm sure i've mucked winning hands because I don't know this stuff. Thanks! Alan Chiras. Back to top alanchiras High Card Joined: 10 Aug 2007 Posts: 17 Location: Key West, Florida Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:40 am    Post subject: jbrennen wrote: alanchiras wrote: But what if my hand was 2-2-3-3-4-4-5? I only have 2-3-4-5. Not enough different cards to have five different cards for a st8. Can I not win? Thanks! Alan Chiras. Your hand would play as 2-2-5-4-3. You would beat any hand of 2-2-6-3-A or worse. You would lose to any hand of 2-2-5-4-A or better, which would include hands like A-A-A-A-K-Q-J (which plays as A-A-K-Q-J) or K-K-K-Q-J-T-9 (which plays as K-Q-J-T-9). I need to understsnd this much more. I'm sure i've mucked winning hands because I don't know this stuff. Thanks! Alan Chiras. Back to top jbrennen Straight Flush Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 422 Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:51 pm    Post subject: If you fold every Razz hand where you can't possibly show down a non-paired hand by the end -- that would be every hand where you have quads, a full house, or three pair -- you would not be giving up much value. The main exception would be if your opponent's board looks even worse than your hand, but that comes down to a fundamental Razz tactic which you need to pick up as the main step beyond beginner play -- figuring out when to play your opponent's board rather than your own cards. Example: You hold: (2-3)-3-3-2 Opponent holds: (x-x)-Q-Q-K Your hand is horrible, and your opponent is probably better than a 90% favorite over you, but his hand is virtually unplayable, so betting into him would nearly always be mandatory. Back to top rayoculebra High Card Joined: 01 Dec 2007 Posts: 4 Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:53 pm    Post subject: i think razz is very difficult poker.I am trying learn play razz but isn´t easy Back to top rayoculebra High Card Joined: 01 Dec 2007 Posts: 4 Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:55 pm    Post subject: i think razz is very difficult poker.I am trying learn play razz but isn´t easy Back to top Don T-Mac Pair Joined: 03 Dec 2007 Posts: 39 Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:29 am    Post subject: A beginning razz player myself as of late, I can only suggest to those who aren't very familiar with the fundamentals to just remember some very simple things. Razz is everything stud or hold 'em or omaha, except upside down. Where quads are great in those games, they're horrible in razz. Straights and flushes don't count. You want the lowest collection of non matching garbage possible. You get seven cards. Ranking of hands at showdowns start with the (read this carefully) highest of your lowest five cards, assuming no pairs, trips, etc.. For example: If you have A-2-3-4-5-6-7, you're best five card hand is 5-4-3-2-A. Yes, start with the five. It's the highest card in your five card hand and it is the first to determine if your hand is better than your opponent's/s'. If you have 6-5-3-2-A and your opponent has 6-4-3-2-A, your opponent's hand is better. If you have 8-4-3-2-A and your opponent has 7-6-5-4-3, your opponent's hand is best with a 7 low against your 8 low. Hope I cleared things up instead of confusing you further. Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         Online Poker Forum Home -> Razz All times are GMT - 5 Hours Page 1 of 1 Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group

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