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arakel · High Card Joined: 26 Apr 2007 Posts: 17

The client is rigged to generate action. FTP wins. The pros who endorce the site get paid for it so they win too.

CitizenCain · Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:04 pm Post subject:

earl126 · High Card Joined: 18 Nov 2007 Posts: 1

This is one that has me wondering too. over and over again my opponents hit the miracle card on the river. I can see it happening from time to time, but it's reached the point of predictability. If I had a dollar for every time my A-K got outdrawn by A - small, My bankroll would be a great deal larger than it is now.
I'm still stunned by a game last night where a guy playing junk drew to a full house TWICE during matchups for big pots. Then drew a straight against a set of nines when we ended up heads-up ( it was a sit-n-go) to bust me out.
It seems that in a lot of games you can pick out what I call A "nemesis". This is a guy that ALWAYS is one up on me, If I have A-Q , they have A-K, if I have 9's, they have 10"s, if I have a 10 high straight, they have it to the J.
I used to chalk it up to the large number of hands being played in such rapid succession on-line ( The old monkeys with typewriters rationale.) But it just happens too disproportionately.
I don't know what a site would gain from any particular player winning or losing, and given the fact that I enjoy on-line poker so much, I guess I'm screwed if its true, But it seems to me that there is plenty of money to be made running a site honestly
So in the absence of any really hard evidence, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, and just not play more than I can easily afford to lose.

Edals · Flush Joined: 09 Oct 2006 Posts: 138

Your losing has little to do with either your playskill or Full Tilt. It has to do with variance. Variance is SICK in poker, SICK in no limit hold'em (which is what you 99% most likely play), one card can put you on your ass, and sometimes those 10% will just keep on coming and never stop. It's just bad luck and that's all there is to it.

Also, you're assuming that it's "always happening," but how often DO you play? More succinctly, how much volume do you put in? You might play 2 hours a day every day, but if you only play 1 table, you might only see maybe 160-200 hands during that time. Now I'm not amazing at this game but I win a decent amount over about something around 300-450,000 hands, and I've gone upwards of 15k hands without a winning session at least once, and have gone spans of up to 25,000 hands where I was consistently losing money.

I've also gone about the same number of hands in the opposite direction, once winning about 1500 dollars in one weekend at .25-.50 in an insane 20,000 hand session, while the weekend before that I played 17,000 hands and won 1,100. If you do the math, its actually not THAT amazing -- actually just a huge grind -- but the idea is that if you're a winner and you're putting in the hours, you're GOING to make money.

Really, you just have to wade it out and keep on fighting, and just keep improving your game in the meantime. Good luck!

L_Ron_Hoover · High Card Joined: 18 Nov 2007 Posts: 5

This software sure deals o LOT of hands that defy the odds. I am getting sick of seeing bad play rewarded time after time. While short term anything can happen there seems to be a pattern of weak hands sucking out much more often than they should. I'm on the verge of telling FT to **** off and go elsewhere.

CitizenCain · Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 12:17 am Post subject:

L_Ron_Hoover · High Card Joined: 18 Nov 2007 Posts: 5

And to the guy with the photos, real mature. Does your mother know what you do on her computer?

CitizenCain · Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 12:36 am Post subject:

Edals · Flush Joined: 09 Oct 2006 Posts: 138

suckerpunchd · Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 1:01 am Post subject:

lolzers...
from the looks of it, the people on this site complaining sound like the kind of people who get a suck out, but dont have the discipline to hold on to it, or slowly build a bank roll/?
so then sum1 who is starting what u are now finishing, sucks out on you.
its a full circle unless you got discipline people. now stop crying

CitizenCain · Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 1:06 am Post subject:

Edals · Flush Joined: 09 Oct 2006 Posts: 138

KronX · Pot Committed Joined: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 3850

Edals · Flush Joined: 09 Oct 2006 Posts: 138

This thread has become a clinic on padding your postcount.

Then again, isn't that what ALL bad beat threads become?

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