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Damian555
Three of a Kind
Joined: 24 Aug 2007
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 Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:20 pm Post subject: A hand in a freeroll |
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I really like how I played this.
Full Tilt Poker Game #3973170054: $100 Freeroll (30143480), Table 167 - 20/40 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 14:00:20 ET - 2007/10/26
Seat 1: Ysokras (1,425), is sitting out
Seat 2: L200135 (3,521)
Seat 3: Sabre12 (3,128)
Seat 4: metzgerlo (1,380), is sitting out
Seat 5: rodneydanger (4,169)
Seat 6: nizzys (1,295)
Seat 7: ThePokerPrincss (2,021), is sitting out
Seat 9: Damian555 (3,088)
ThePokerPrincss posts the small blind of 20
Damian555 posts the big blind of 40
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Damian555 [Jd Ks 9d Kc]
Ysokras folds
Math Dylan sits down
Math Dylan adds 1,395
Math Dylan is sitting out
L200135 calls 40
Sabre12 calls 40
metzgerlo folds
rodneydanger calls 40
nizzys has 15 seconds left to act
nizzys has been disconnected
nizzys has reconnected
nizzys has 15 seconds left to act
nizzys calls 40
ThePokerPrincss folds
Damian555 checks
*** FLOP *** [Kd 9h 5h]
Damian555 checks
L200135 checks
Sabre12 bets 80
rodneydanger folds
nizzys calls 80
Damian555 raises to 160
L200135 folds
Sabre12 calls 80
nizzys calls 80
*** TURN *** [Kd 9h 5h] [2c]
Damian555 bets 350
Sabre12 calls 350
nizzys folds
*** RIVER *** [Kd 9h 5h 2c] [2h]
Damian555 checks
Sabre12 bets 480
Damian555 has 15 seconds left to act
Damian555 raises to 2,538, and is all in
Sabre12 calls 2,058
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Damian555 shows [Jd Ks 9d Kc] a full house, Kings full of Twos
Sabre12 mucks(he had a king high flush)
Damian555 wins the pot (6,476) with a full house, Kings full of Twos
The blinds are now 25/50
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6,476 | Rake 0
Board: [Kd 9h 5h 2c 2h]
Seat 1: Ysokras didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: L200135 folded on the Flop
Seat 3: Sabre12 mucked [Qh Ah Jh 3s] - a flush, Ace high
Seat 4: metzgerlo didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: rodneydanger folded on the Flop
Seat 6: nizzys (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 7: ThePokerPrincss (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: Damian555 (big blind) showed [Jd Ks 9d Kc] and won (6,476) with a full house, Kings full of Twos |
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drtre1987
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*** FLOP *** [Kd 9h 5h]
Damian555 checks
L200135 checks
Sabre12 bets 80
rodneydanger folds
nizzys calls 80
Damian555 raises to 160
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This raise here is really bad. You should really be raising the pot in this spot. There are so many draws out there that you can't afford to let them see it so cheaply. I would check raise or lead out the pot in this sitaution. You have to worry about flush draws and straight draws. Get value out of your hand by charging them for their draws. |
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Uncle_Buz
Four of a Kind
Joined: 29 Mar 2006
Posts: 260
Location: Tampa (formerly Ann Arbor)
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Your check-raise on the flop gave Sabre12 better than 5:1 (500 pot, 80 more to call) to make a hand that can beat three kings and because he called, nizzys got better than 6:1 to call.
Looking at Sabre12's hand, he had 8 cards to make a nut flush and 3 tens to make a nut straight.
Accepted Poker theory is that you want to make it incorrect for the opponent to call. This is why people playing limit games get frustrated, you often can't bet enough to make it incorrect to call. But this is Pot Limit and you have some freedom.
Your check-raise runs the risk of giving a free card to a hand that can beat you, but chances are good that a player in position would bet a nut flush draw. The best thing about the c/r is that it allows you to raise a larger amount - an 80 call plus everything already bet.
A raise at this point of at least half the pot is warranted because it offers Sabre12 a pot of 630 for a 210 call or 3:1 to make his hand. Some players, like drtre1987 like to raise the whole pot in this situation and make it wrong for any draws to call even if they have 20 outs. That way, you either win the pot right there - with no risk - or you are a big favorite to win if they call. The downside is that you may get yourself into a situation where if a bad card comes, you will have difficulty getting away from your hand. Remember, a bad card will show up on the turn about 20% of the time and another 20% of the time on the river. In tournaments, you hope to find yourself ahead on the flop many times, but you don't want to commit all of your chips every time or you will certainly bust out eventually (and have a bad beat story). You can't go back to your pocket in a tournament like you can in a cash game.
Your turn bet was perfect. 350 into pot of 660 when a safe card came out. He could only be figuring that if he made his flush that he would get some additional chips on the river.
Then he got really unlucky and he played really, bad. Betting into a paired board with a flush, having been check-raised on the flop and then calling a check-raise on the river?
A better player would have either checked behind you or folded a vulnerable nut flush to your check-raise on the end.
Whether you value bet on the end or check-raise depends on what you think your chances are that he will bet if you check. |
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drtre1987
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| The reason to pot bet/raise in this situation is because although you are overcharging them for their draws, they will call it anyways. In higher stakes games, always betting the pot will often be wrong, but in the lower stakes games and freerolls where they will call you with a disregard to pot odds, it is better to just charge more while you can. |
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