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Damian555
Three of a Kind


Joined: 24 Aug 2007
Posts: 96

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 6:28 pm    Post subject: Fold or call? Reply with quote

Full Tilt Poker Game #3986578047: $100 Freeroll (30231096), Table 278 - 200/400 Ante 30 - Limit Stud Hi - 19:17:39 ET - 2007/10/27
Seat 1: katerfly (6,049)
Seat 2: MDot1389 (9,886)
Seat 3: Story81 (2,409)
Seat 4: niety-nine (1,060), is sitting out
Seat 5: FHWiesbaden (4,180), is sitting out
Seat 6: xrichmond (5,129)
Seat 7: Goudsbloem (170), is sitting out
Seat 8: Damian555 (5,130)
katerfly antes 30
MDot1389 antes 30
Story81 antes 30
niety-nine antes 30
FHWiesbaden antes 30
xrichmond antes 30
Goudsbloem antes 30
Damian555 antes 30
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to katerfly [9d]
Dealt to MDot1389 [8s]
Dealt to Story81 [Ks]
Dealt to niety-nine [5h]
Dealt to FHWiesbaden [5c]
Dealt to xrichmond [Tc]
Dealt to Goudsbloem [2d]
Dealt to Damian555 [9s Js] [Ts]
Goudsbloem is low with [2d]
Goudsbloem brings in for 50
Damian555 calls 50
katerfly folds
MDot1389 calls 50
Story81 calls 50
niety-nine folds
FHWiesbaden folds
xrichmond folds
*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to MDot1389 [8s] [As]
Dealt to Story81 [Ks] [Kh]
Dealt to Goudsbloem [2d] [2c]
Dealt to Damian555 [9s Js Ts] [4h]
Story81 checks
Goudsbloem checks
Damian555 checks
MDot1389 checks
*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to MDot1389 [8s As] [3c]
Dealt to Story81 [Ks Kh] [Th]
Dealt to Goudsbloem [2d 2c] [Qc]
Dealt to Damian555 [9s Js Ts 4h] [7d]
Story81 bets 400
Goudsbloem folds
Damian555 has 15 seconds left to act
Damian555 folds
MDot1389 folds
Uncalled bet of 400 returned to Story81
Story81 mucks
Story81 wins the pot (440)
The game is now 250/500 Limit Stud H/L with an ante of 40
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 440 | Rake 0
Seat 1: katerfly folded on 3rd St.
Seat 2: MDot1389 folded on 5th St.
Seat 3: Story81 collected (440), mucked
Seat 4: niety-nine folded on 3rd St.
Seat 5: FHWiesbaden folded on 3rd St.
Seat 6: xrichmond folded on 3rd St.
Seat 7: Goudsbloem folded on 5th St.
Seat 8: Damian555 folded on 5th St.
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Strasse
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Joined: 16 Nov 2005
Posts: 5107
Location: Austin, TX

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL, you actually think you had a decision there? YOu can see that you are behind, what more do you want?
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Damian555
Three of a Kind


Joined: 24 Aug 2007
Posts: 96

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not good at stud, I was hoping to get a straight.
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Strasse
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Joined: 16 Nov 2005
Posts: 5107
Location: Austin, TX

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You would have been drawing at a 3 outer in a small pot. Never a good idea.
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HuJwang
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Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Posts: 6431
Location: Halifax, NS

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A general rule of thumb for beginners for limit games: If you're unsure of a decision, tend to fold if the pot is small or medium, and tend to call if the pot is quite big.

Don't take that to mean you should just call down with anything anytime the pot gets big, it just means which play should be your default if you don't really know what to do.
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Newman98
High Card


Joined: 05 Oct 2007
Posts: 18

PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You cannot just pay attention to your cards, you have to watch what the others have IN RELATIONSHIP to your cards.

I would have folded on 4th when the guy hit the pair of kings and you hit a four. You know you are behind, you dont have any over cards, he paired his door card, and you either need to hit a 7-8, 8-Q, or Q-K to hit your straight. Out of those 4 cards, You already know two kings, a queen, and an 8 are out. When you hit the 7, you are pretty much only drawing to an 8. As Strasse said, you are drawing to a 3 outter in a small pot (440 chips) with 2 cards to come. That puts your percentages at around 6% (sorry if that is wrong, im used to holdem).

If you dont mind throwing chips into a pot where you will only win 1 out of every 20 times you fish for it, go for it. Otherwise, keep an eye on the cards in play =)
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Strasse
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Joined: 16 Nov 2005
Posts: 5107
Location: Austin, TX

PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Newman98 wrote:
You cannot just pay attention to your cards, you have to watch what the others have IN RELATIONSHIP to your cards.

I would have folded on 4th when the guy hit the pair of kings and you hit a four. You know you are behind, you dont have any over cards, he paired his door card, and you either need to hit a 7-8, 8-Q, or Q-K to hit your straight. Out of those 4 cards, You already know two kings, a queen, and an 8 are out. When you hit the 7, you are pretty much only drawing to an 8. As Strasse said, you are drawing to a 3 outter in a small pot (440 chips) with 2 cards to come. That puts your percentages at around 6% (sorry if that is wrong, im used to holdem).

If you dont mind throwing chips into a pot where you will only win 1 out of every 20 times you fish for it, go for it. Otherwise, keep an eye on the cards in play =)


He couldn't fold on 4th, there was no bet. Also, your percentage is a little low, since you can see so many cards, its 3 out of a deck of less.
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doorbread
Two Pair


Joined: 28 Apr 2007
Posts: 61

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. You see that you're beat
2. All you've got invested is your limp.
3. What are you chasing again?
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