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Online Poker Forum - DAHHHHHH, BIGGEST 2/4 POT. Also a question though.

 
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Strasse
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:20 pm    Post subject: DAHHHHHH, BIGGEST 2/4 POT. Also a question though. Reply with quote

Full Tilt Poker Game #3595963293: Table Unionville - $2/$4 Ante $0.40 - Limit Stud Hi - 23:05:19 ET - 2007/09/17
Seat 1: mina1 ($59.80)
Seat 2: threept14 ($175.95)
Seat 3: dos_mil ($134.90)
Seat 4: RonB6500 ($155.10)
Seat 5: HugeHandz ($275.50)
Seat 6: pgoose57 ($74.60), is sitting out
Seat 7: Strasse ($57.60)
Seat 8: mallek55 ($89.80)
mina1 antes $0.40
mallek55 antes $0.40
Strasse antes $0.40
HugeHandz antes $0.40
dos_mil antes $0.40
RonB6500 antes $0.40
threept14 antes $0.40
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to mina1 [Tc]
Dealt to threept14 [7h]
Dealt to dos_mil [2d]
Dealt to RonB6500 [6d]
Dealt to HugeHandz [6s]
Dealt to Strasse [Qc Qh] [Ac]
Dealt to mallek55 [7c]
dos_mil is low with [2d]
dos_mil brings in for $0.50
RonB6500 calls $0.50
HugeHandz calls $0.50
Strasse completes it to $2
mallek55 folds
mina1 calls $2
threept14 folds
dos_mil folds
RonB6500 calls $1.50
HugeHandz calls $1.50
*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to mina1 [Tc] [2s]
Dealt to RonB6500 [6d] [Jd]
Dealt to HugeHandz [6s] [6c]
Dealt to Strasse [Qc Qh Ac] [Qd]
HugeHandz bets $2
Strasse raises to $6
mina1 calls $6
RonB6500 calls $6
HugeHandz raises to $10
Strasse raises to $14
pgoose57 stands up
mina1 folds
RonB6500 calls $8
HugeHandz calls $4
*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to RonB6500 [6d Jd] [7s]
Dealt to HugeHandz [6s 6c] [Ad]
Dealt to Strasse [Qc Qh Ac Qd] [8c]
HugeHandz bets $4
Strasse raises to $8
RonB6500 has 15 seconds left to act
RonB6500 calls $8
HugeHandz calls $4
*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to RonB6500 [6d Jd 7s] [4h]
Dealt to HugeHandz [6s 6c Ad] [9c]
Dealt to Strasse [Qc Qh Ac Qd 8c] [3h]
HugeHandz bets $4
Strasse raises to $8
RonB6500 has 15 seconds left to act
RonB6500 calls $8
HugeHandz calls $4
*** 7TH STREET ***
Dealt to Strasse [Qc Qh Ac Qd 8c 3h] [Ah]
HugeHandz checks
Strasse bets $4
RonB6500 calls $4
HugeHandz calls $4
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Strasse shows [Ah Qh Ac Qd 8c 3h Qc] a full house, Queens full of Aces
RonB6500 mucks
HugeHandz mucks
Strasse wins the pot ($116.30) with a full house, Queens full of Aces
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $119.30 | Rake $3
Seat 1: mina1 folded on 4th St.
Seat 2: threept14 folded on 3rd St.
Seat 3: dos_mil folded on 3rd St.
Seat 4: RonB6500 mucked [Td 5s 6d Jd 7s 4h 3d] - a straight, Seven high
Seat 5: HugeHandz mucked [8s 6h 6s 6c Ad 9c 5h] - three of a kind, Sixes
Seat 6: pgoose57 is sitting out
Seat 7: Strasse showed [Ah Qh Ac Qd 8c 3h Qc] and won ($116.30) with a full house, Queens full of Aces
Seat 8: mallek55 folded on 3rd St.

I'm actually surprised the other guy played 6s w/ a dead 6, and at first thought maybe he only had two pair or something. By the end, though, I knew he had 3 6s. Anyways, the question. Would you push early like I did, or wait until later streets? Why? Usually I might wait until later streets, but I figured I didn't have to since we were making the big bets on 4th. My action got killed a little later since I pushed early. No more than 2 bets on any other streets. Also, would you check the river, hoping that other guy would hit his flush, and you could check raise, for two bets from each of them, or would you just bet out, knowing you'd atleast get the call from the other guy, and maybe a raise from flush if he hits, but probably not.
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cubbies760
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No comment regarding strategy, but Very Nice Hand! Very Happy
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mathman1115
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you played the hand perfect. By completing 3rd you are simply representing a pair of aces, so when you catch the Q it seems relatively harmeless. Whenever you can represent a hand that is weaker than what you really hold, your in awesome shape. Pushing hard is the right thing to do, although i am basing that solely on the limits i play (.50/1.00) where players call with everything. I don't know how much better the skill level is at your limits. If its a super tight table, i may slowplay until 5th.

I don't think i would try to check raise the river. Your board isn't paired, but you have been pushing hard the whole way, and i think your opponents may be inclined to check down even with a str8 or flush. The pot is huge, and if you bet the river you surely will get called by very weak hands such as two pair.
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Pete D
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt I would have checked the river either. If either hit a monster hand on the river, they may very well raise you, then you can re-raise. W/ the dead 6 as you mentioned, no hand could beat you, so I'd lead right out... especially since you showed so much aggression earlier in the hand, they'll most likely check behind you.

Now, what I'd like to know is if you let out a big DAHHHH when the ace hit on the river? Razz
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sk8ram
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's fine. I wouldn't wait until 5th with concealed big trips here when one guy obviously wants to get into a raising war and you have the double bet in effect.

Nicley done on catching full btw, thats where I struggle and find that Mr Fishy chasing his straight has beaten me.

Meh.

Check-raise is a no no.
Firtsly they may check behind which would be sensible for them given the action on previous streets.
Secondly if they bet and you raise, they could find a fold easily. (I say this of course knowing that at 2/4 they'll probably call anyway.)

This means you're risking a check down to win what is only likely to be 1BB. Betting out secures you at least 1BB and 3BB in the case that you're raised and can repop it.
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