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renegades8
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 Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 4:51 pm Post subject: Forum Freeroll Hand |
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Full Tilt Poker Game #3572344536: FTP Forum Freeroll (26162693), Table 4 - 80/160 Ante 15 - Limit Stud H/L - 16:47:36 ET - 2007/09/15
Seat 1: alFUNDZo (865), is sitting out
Seat 2: renegades8 (1,875)
Seat 3: dcdoorknob (1,670)
Seat 4: alnoffi (847)
Seat 5: ShirtPrinter (2,408)
Seat 6: warman24 (2,240)
Seat 7: Freeroll Winner (860)
Seat 8: djhomeschool (1,235)
alFUNDZo antes 15
renegades8 antes 15
dcdoorknob antes 15
alnoffi antes 15
ShirtPrinter antes 15
warman24 antes 15
Freeroll Winner antes 15
djhomeschool antes 15
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to alFUNDZo [Jc]
Dealt to renegades8 [Jh Js] [3h]
Dealt to dcdoorknob [6c]
Dealt to alnoffi [8s]
Dealt to ShirtPrinter [Qs]
Dealt to warman24 [6h]
Dealt to Freeroll Winner [7h]
Dealt to djhomeschool [Qh]
renegades8 is low with [3h]
renegades8 brings in for 25
dcdoorknob folds
alnoffi calls 25
ShirtPrinter folds
warman24 folds
Freeroll Winner folds
djhomeschool folds
alFUNDZo folds
*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to renegades8 [Jh Js 3h] [Tc]
Dealt to alnoffi [8s] [Th]
alnoffi checks
renegades8 bets 80
alnoffi calls 80
*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to renegades8 [Jh Js 3h Tc] [7d]
Dealt to alnoffi [8s Th] [8c]
alnoffi checks
renegades8 bets 160
alnoffi has 15 seconds left to act
alnoffi raises to 320
renegades8 has 15 seconds left to act
renegades8 calls 160
*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to renegades8 [Jh Js 3h Tc 7d] [2c]
Dealt to alnoffi [8s Th 8c] [2s]
alnoffi bets 160
renegades8 ???
What's your move there? Should I have played this more passively? More agressively? |
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Zophar
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| Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't like the hand generally, but because of the situation, you have to play it. When he pairs his doorcard on 5th, I'd usually try a check/raise here to define where I am immediately. If he reraises he likely has the set, if he smooth calls he's likely 2 pair at best and you can continue. I don't like to generally bet into a paired doorcard. It's a toss up whether to continue here, you have to go with your gut. You could actually be ahead. |
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Strasse
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| Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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| I would check behind on 5th. Even if you are ahead, its probably not by much. You aren't giving up that much by checking. I don't understand why you are asking us what we would do on 6th. You should be asking us what we would do on 5th after he checkraises you. The way you are posing the question, it seems like you think you should autocall on 5th because you already put money in on 5th, but that the decision is on 6th, because you haven't yet put money in on 6th. If you are calling on 5th, call on 6th. If you want to fold on 6th, you should have already folded on 5th. |
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renegades8
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| Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Zophar wrote: |
| I don't like the hand generally, but because of the situation, you have to play it. When he pairs his doorcard on 5th, I'd usually try a check/raise here to define where I am immediately. If he reraises he likely has the set, if he smooth calls he's likely 2 pair at best and you can continue. I don't like to generally bet into a paired doorcard. It's a toss up whether to continue here, you have to go with your gut. You could actually be ahead. |
I was last to act, how am I supposed to check-raise?
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| I would check behind on 5th. Even if you are ahead, its probably not by much. You aren't giving up that much by checking. I don't understand why you are asking us what we would do on 6th. You should be asking us what we would do on 5th after he checkraises you. The way you are posing the question, it seems like you think you should autocall on 5th because you already put money in on 5th, but that the decision is on 6th, because you haven't yet put money in on 6th. If you are calling on 5th, call on 6th. If you want to fold on 6th, you should have already folded on 5th. |
I ended up folding on 6th, but after looking back on it I think it was the wrong move. I should have maybe just checked behind on 5th. Is it possible that he was just a bad player who was just going to ram and jam regardless because he was shortstacked? He showed no agression until he caught his pair of 8s, could that possibly mean that that's all he had? If I remember correctly he wasn't that great of a player. If he has like 2288T am I really that behind? I think that if he had a pair of 8s off the bat he would have been more agressive since he's shortstacked, so is it that likely he has three of a kind? |
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Zophar
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| Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry my error. Don't know what I was thinking at the time. The more I think about it, I really have no idea where I got that from.  |
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