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RCADC136
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Joined: 18 Jun 2007
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 Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:30 pm Post subject: What's up with mixing the cards at the showdown? |
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Why do they switch the hole cards at showdown?
When I check the hand histories they take the river card and replace it with your first(?) hole card.
If they're not going to change the rest of the cards, why just the hole cards and just one at that?
It seems confusing and unnecessary. Plus, I have to put up with the knuckleheads who think I sucked out on them. |
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mathman1115
Wizard of Odderation
Joined: 01 Sep 2005
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Location: Land of the Fightin' Phillies
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| Yeah, it is kind of annoying in the stud games. If they are going to rearrange them, why don't they get rearranged so that the best 5 are in order? Rearranging them just to mix them up is pointless. It should at least have a purpose. |
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cjavdani
Royal Flush
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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Location: Eugene, OR
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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| It's done so that at a showdown it won't be obvious if you chased a draw. Live players will also mix up their down cards so that it's more difficult to get a read on them. |
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PokerAA
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lol, i had a guy thinking i capped on 3rd street with a K. (since my chat was banned, i couldnt tell him that i already had the hand made) he sucked anyway, but that made it even more annoying when he was calling me a 'donk'. 
it happened many other times too (when it's not as obvious that i already had the made hand), but the good players can normally tell if you did hit it on the river or not.
(it does help when you actually do catch on 7th though after fishing)
i will normally have my hand made earlier on or have a NICE draw, so it would be better for me if they didnt mix up the cards so i wouldnt have to be accused of playing badly... 
it would be a lot better to mix up the cards so that it shows your hand in the end. like A34569Q or A22367K/A2367K2... it would stop a lot of arguing. |
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jbrennen
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Joined: 16 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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| PokerAA wrote: |
| i will normally have my hand made earlier on or have a NICE draw, so it would be better for me if they didnt mix up the cards so i wouldnt have to be accused of playing badly... |
I used to try to educate people about the shuffling of the hole cards.
Not any more. If they want to think that I reraised on 3rd street with a hand like (K-5)-4, that's fine with me.
Be creative. Use it to your advantage. Say things like, "I just felt lucky. Felt like it was my hand to win." Or, "I probably should have folded on 3rd street, but I just had a hunch." Or, "I was hoping to steal the hand on 4th if you bricked."
Playing a hand perfectly while appearing to be a donk = money in the bank. |
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clussman
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| Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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+1
And, for the record, FTP organizes your down cards from highest to lowest at showdown. It isn't random and it is all three cards. |
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PokerAA
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| Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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| jbrennen wrote: |
| PokerAA wrote: |
| i will normally have my hand made earlier on or have a NICE draw, so it would be better for me if they didnt mix up the cards so i wouldnt have to be accused of playing badly... |
I used to try to educate people about the shuffling of the hole cards.
Not any more. If they want to think that I reraised on 3rd street with a hand like (K-5)-4, that's fine with me.
Be creative. Use it to your advantage. Say things like, "I just felt lucky. Felt like it was my hand to win." Or, "I probably should have folded on 3rd street, but I just had a hunch." Or, "I was hoping to steal the hand on 4th if you bricked."
Playing a hand perfectly while appearing to be a donk = money in the bank. |
true, it's still very annoying though. especially against someone who will never let it go and keeps bugging you about that same hand..
although, it is a good laugh.   |
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clussman
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| PokerAA wrote: |
| true, it's still very annoying though. especially against someone who will never let it go and keeps bugging you about that same hand.. |
It's the opposite of annoying to me. Makes me smile. But if it really bothers you: mute them. |
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PokerAA
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| clussman wrote: |
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| true, it's still very annoying though. especially against someone who will never let it go and keeps bugging you about that same hand.. |
It's the opposite of annoying to me. Makes me smile. But if it really bothers you: mute them. |
yea, it bothers me, but it's a lot more funny than annoying so i wouldnt mute them and miss out on it. |
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sgspecial
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Joined: 19 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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| PokerAA wrote: |
| clussman wrote: |
| PokerAA wrote: |
| true, it's still very annoying though. especially against someone who will never let it go and keeps bugging you about that same hand.. |
It's the opposite of annoying to me. Makes me smile. But if it really bothers you: mute them. |
yea, it bothers me, but it's a lot more funny than annoying so i wouldnt mute them and miss out on it. |
It's like the sound of money in the bank. |
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RCADC136
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Joined: 18 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks clussman.
That was messing with my head. At first I thought they just switched your river card with your first card but then sometimes....they wouldn't. I never realized they arranged them from highest to lowest.
One less cluttered thought in my poker brain.
As for allowing them to think I'm a donk; not a bad idea. Well, honestly it's not that far from the truth anyway.  |
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roger1960
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| Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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| it does make it hard to go over your own hand. so they change all of the cards from lowest to highest? ty |
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