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Online Poker Forum - What's the correct way to play 10-10 at this situation?

 
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MochaBabie
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 3:35 am    Post subject: What's the correct way to play 10-10 at this situation? Reply with quote

This happened in a home game, single table NL tournament. 4 players left and top 3 would be in the money (50%, 30%, 20%).

Here was the situation:

____________P1______Button___SB_____BB(Me)

ChipCount __1300______700____1000____1000

Blind_________________________40______80

Action______Raise300__All-in____Fold_____???

P1 is a aggressive player and he stole some pots before. Button is an average player and I had no read. I had 10-10. What is the correct play?

It sure was an interesting situation. I was playing along with my wife. I wanted to fold and she wanted to go all-in.

I will post the result action after getting some opinion.
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Lepoppet
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd probably call the all-in with the 10-10 hoping that P1 would fold to preserve his stack and getting heads up with the Button. Hopefully he is either desparate to play any hand as he is short-stacked and you will dominate him or he has two overcards and you are the favorite to win with the pocket pair.

If P1 doesn't fold, you can check it down for better odds of busting the Button.
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Jaconda78
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's no way you can just call there - that leaves you with 300 chips! You have to push it in to try to isolate the short stack that's all in, and to give yourself the best chance of becoming a threat if you do get called by someone else and doubling up yourself.
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MochaBabie
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 10-10 only dominates when the button has an under pair (99 and below) or bad ace. I think most likey Button has AK, AQ, AJ, or even over pairs, where I am 50/50 at best. I haven't even consider P1 yet. He might decide to call. I mgiht well against 3 over cards. If I lose the hand, I only have 300 chips left.

If I fold, P1 is offered a very good pot odd to call the all-in. Either P1 can take Button out or Button double up and P1 become short stack.

I haven't invest any money in the pot. So I think it should be a fold...
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UrbanMeyer1
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) You have over 12x blinds, still plenty of time.
2) You haven't put any in, like you said.

If you thought you were around 60% or better against the button you could certainly move all in to shut out UTG, but if you factor in the times he wont fold & the your FE with that play, over time by your read you are an underdog. Fold.
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jbrennen
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd fold.

If the player on the button has two overcards, you're basically in a coin flip situation, and if you lose you're crippled. That's not to mention the possibility that P1 calls you with a decent hand.

10-10 is just not that great of a hand to stake your tournament on, especially when there's a real possibility that you end up in a 3-way pot.
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JaketheStake
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd fold too. 10-10 not THAT great, if the player on the button knows what he's doing he has SOMETHING.


It'd be different if this was after the flop and you had trip 10s...but nope, I just wouldn't do it here. Maybe if you were already in the money, but doesn't look like that was the case here.
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UrbanMeyer1
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:31 am    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

JaketheStake wrote:

It'd be different if this was after the flop and you had trip 10s


Really...? Laughing
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JaketheStake
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, maybe that one was a little obvious. Rolling Eyes Laughing

Point is, when two other players have demonstrated strength, and you have pocket 10s, in a tournament setting, I think this is pretty much a 3-way coinflip. Your advantage is highly unlikely to be that high (some of the numbers guys can confirm), so I wouldn't do it.
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