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leighs · Four of a Kind Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Posts: 301

I'm not complaining, I just thought this was an interesting hand.

This guy bluffed way too much so I had been waiting for an opportunity to trap him.

When he min reraised me preflop, I put him on a fairly big pair. When I paired my A on the flop, I decided to check so that he would bluff. He liked to make the min bet on the flop and then make a big bet on the turn if the other person just called. Sure enough, that is exactly what happened. I had his hand wrong but was still way ahead until he caught the T on the river.

FullTiltPoker Game #292512193: $10 + $1 Sit & Go (1889341), Table 1 - 50/100 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:47:32 ET - 2005/11/15
Seat 1: leighs (5,100)
Seat 2: Crispy408 (1,740)
Seat 3: dinkin69 (1,355)
Seat 5: xxxx (1,910)
Seat 7: BklynRules (1,570)
Seat 8: 420Nizzle (1,825)
BklynRules posts the small blind of 50
420Nizzle posts the big blind of 100
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to leighs [As Qh]
leighs raises to 300
Crispy408 folds
dinkin69 folds
xxxx raises to 500
BklynRules folds
420Nizzle folds
leighs calls 200
*** FLOP *** [3c 9s Ad]
leighs checks
xxxx bets 100
leighs calls 100
*** TURN *** [3c 9s Ad] [6s]
leighs checks
xxxx bets 1,310, and is all in
leighs calls 1,310
xxxx shows [Ah Th]
leighs shows [As Qh]
*** RIVER *** [3c 9s Ad 6s] [Ts]
xxxx shows two pair, Aces and Tens
leighs shows a pair of Aces
xxxx wins the pot (3,970) with two pair, Aces and Tens

This guy made all the wrong moves. He raised me with the worst hand preflop. He made a meaningless bet on the flop that gave him no information about the strength of my hand. He got all his chips in with 6.82% equity. At least he recognized his good fortune.

xxxx: lucky me!!!!!!!!!

I don't think the outcome would have changed if I had played "properly" because he actually had a decent hand this time.

JaketheStake · Straight Flush Joined: 03 Nov 2005 Posts: 415

Why are you letting him get to the river? You must make your opponents pay to draw to their hands. Otherwise, yeah, like you've seen, almost anybody has SOME chance of sucking something out on the river, and if all you've got is high pair, you need to defend that aggresively.

Pokalok · Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:05 pm Post subject:

I disagree; I think you did the right thing. Getting all your money in the middle when you have the best hand against someone who will go with you with the worst of it is how money is made in this game. Deceptive play is very profitable and you just got unlucky which will not happen the other 9 times you get the guy to do the same thing with you. I would not have changed anything about your play.

That�s not to say that you should slow play top pair top kicker, but you didn�t slow play some unknown commodity you took the personality and play of your opponent and used it to get his chips away from him. No one would tell you that you did the wrong thing by limping in early with AA getting a raiser and then going all in on pre flop. If you get the fool to go with you, you have a better chance of loosing than with the hand that beat you here. Good Job! Bad Luck!

JaketheStake · Straight Flush Joined: 03 Nov 2005 Posts: 415

It was a coinflip hand. The other player had represented something strong. How did you know he didn't have trip aces, or 2 pair? AQ is something people don't like to get away from, but I believe I'd have bet my AQ stronger earlier on, representing trips or 2 pair (to give him something to think about, other than his pair of aces and your weak bet).

That being said, still don't think I'd have called all in on that hand, no matter how much he had bluffed in the past. Just my $.02, not trying to knock you or anything, but can you say you'd do it again if you had too?

I mean, you really did have pretty much equivalent hands on the flop...AQ not THAT much better than A10, after all, with that flop and turn showing.

northsiders · Pair Joined: 29 Sep 2005 Posts: 41

The way I look at this ( a situation where you have top pair with good kicker) is two ways. If it is a non-threatening board, which it was, you can slow play it the way you did and hope that he doesn't suck out. If you are trying to pad a chip stack this could provide you with plenty more, or in this case, knock you down considerably. But with a guy like this, where you know some characteristics of his play and that he will keep firing at a pot, you may want to just take it down early and be happy with a small/decent pot and a win over a player like that. It may even set him up to think you are bluffing at him, and he will set his own trap for himself later when you are holding the nuts.

But then again, what do I know

Marty

Mighty Russ · Pair Joined: 17 Nov 2005 Posts: 26

You didn't slow play. You knew your opponent and played him perfectly. He fell into the trap and you had him. he's only 5 percent to catch that 10 on the river you know. And A Q is a MUCH better hand than A 10. And, since he wasn't bluffing this time, he'd have gone all in to your raise, so even if you'd done something differently, you'd still have ended up with all his money in the pot and you having the best hand. You did fine. Sometimes poker kicks you in the teeth, that's all

Mighty Russ · Pair Joined: 17 Nov 2005 Posts: 26

In addition, there was no way to take this guy down early. He had a good hand, he wasn't going anywhere

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