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lMlOlOlKl
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 4:38 pm    Post subject: New Limit Player Reply with quote

everyones heard the biitching of horrible beats on tilt for their whole bankroll in no-limit by everyone i play with including me, so i was thinking of switching to limit to keep my bankroll a little safer.
i know there are still gonna be donks and beats in limit, but im looking for the biggest advice for switching from no-limit to limit in order to survive the classic donk beats of fulltilt. any advice let me know. thanks.
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honkythunder
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a copy of Small Stakes Hold Em by Skalansky, Miller, and Malmuth. Read it and then reread it constantly in between sessions.
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lMlOlOlKl
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well im lookin for advice on how to play, not books to read, im too lazy to get any. thanks anyway though
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drcossack
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read SS2's LHE Chapter and Small Stakes Hold'em.

Those will give you a basic idea of Limit Hold'em.
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griffinlord
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lMlOlOlKl wrote:
im too lazy to get any.


Then stick with NL...people think limit is easier than nl, but they are wrong.


Still here?

Okay:

1. Play tighter preflop than you would at nl.

2. It is about betting patterns not bet sizes.

3. Do not try mid/high limit strategy at the micro limits. Play straight forward ABC poker.

4. It is about pushing small edges on a lot of hands, not trying to stack your opponent on a single hand.

5. One pair is one pair.
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BOYNAMEDSUE
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Winning Low Limit Holdem, by Lee Jones, is also good.
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mathman1115
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The main thing is to play tighter in limit than you would in NL. Basically fold or raise preflop, unless you anticipate a few people to the flop and then you can limp with volume hands, like 9Ts or low pp.

If you are first to enter a pot and you have a hand worth playing, might as well raise and force others to hit the flop.

Limit is about grinding, not stacking your opponents. As the others said, push your edges, and don't overplay mediocre hands such as 1 pair.
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lMlOlOlKl
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok thanks thats pretty good advice.

but also, for a bankroll of about 60, what would be the best limits to play, $0.25 $0.50; $.50 $1; $1 $2, or even $2 $4?

i am lookin to gamble to make some profit here so im lookin for my best chance to make a profit, but i dont want to be at a limit as lowstack at my table.

side-note: would playing heads up be best for a transition from no-limit to limit, because you can sometimes pull off a bluff in limit heads up, but the lowest limit is $2 $4, should i go for it?
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griffinlord
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A reasonable buyin is somewhere in the neighborhood of 25BB. I like to buy in for 25-30BB.

at .25/.5 you could buy in four times for $15.

at .5/1 you could buy in twice for $25 - $30.

at 1/2 you could buy in once for $50 - $60.


I would say that four buyins is plenty of gamble. At these limits your variability will be fairly high and dropping 4 buyins isn't all that uncommon.
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fire_eyes_2k
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well if you get hit by a bad run of -100 big bets, then you've lost your entire bankroll at anything above .25/.50 so you should start there. Swings of 100 big bets are quite common in my experience, I started at .25/5 and now play 2/4 and make a profit 3 months later, so stick with it for a bit and bigger profits will follow later with a bit of dedication and practice.
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HitShappens
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"im too lazy to get any"

Luke: You ask the Impossible.
Yoda: That is why you Fail.

That's from Jedi.
Good stuff there.
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ridic x
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Starting out I agree with the tight play. If you don't have it now, get pokertracker. Once you become comfortable with the game I suggest opening it up, especially if you're playing SH. If you saw me play SH limit at first glance you would think I was a total donk, then again you would wonder why while looking like a donk I slay the SH games. IMO if you are not a winning player in NL you won't come close to being a winning player in limit. The beats are worse. The swings are more brutal. The game is a grind.

I'd say until you can play .10-.25 NL and win on a consistant basis you will not be good at limit.

Take a look at this thread

http://www.totalbluff.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6965&start=100

It should help you a bit however SSH would be your best bet. If you don't have the patience to read a book you most likely shouldn't be playing poker.
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sockerkid008
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that limit poker is a more enjoyable game then nl although I play more no limit, the game of limit requires what I think a lot more patience and some more trapping. If your playing super agressive players at the limit players you will be able to trap them very easily. Smile
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