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mikec7809 Two Pair
Joined: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 55
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:38 pm Post subject: Omaha Advice |
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I've just started playing Omaha. I usually play nl hold'em, but I decided to mix it up a little, and lately I've been doing pretty well at the pl omaha tables.
However, I don't really feel like I have a great understanding of the game yet.
For example, should I be limping into pots with mediocre hands when there's no raise preflop, and a lot of people in? It seems like the pot odds are just too good to let it go, but I also wonder if i would be better off to just let go of a hand that could get me into a lot of trouble by hitting a lower flush or full house or something like that.
I was reading over the discussion on starting hands. I should be pushing those hands preflop, right? I've been generally pushing my better hands with a pot-sized raise preflop.
Which book would you recommend to learn how to play pl omaha? Supersystem 2 or Helmuth's Play Poker Like the Pros? |
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GripHoldOn Message Board Junkie
Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 2096 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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| One's success in omaha hinges more on his/her postflop play. Most hands can be played for a limp. |
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The Rep Pair
Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 23 Location: Dutch Flat
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 10:23 am Post subject: In my Humble Opinion |
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| I have been asked in many PL Omaha Tourneys why I limped into a pot with a huge starting hand and my reply seems to be pretty steady. When I play PL omaha I know that 9 out of 10 times my pot sized raise pre flop is going to probably not only get called but get raised by someone who also has a big hand, thus putting me in the position to risk possibly all of my chips pre flop, and in Omaha unlike Holdem there are a lot of big hands that will play for all their chips pre flop so since it is Pot Limit I find it better to limp and possibly call a raise if needed to see the flop and then once the flop hits and I am fairly sure that I haven't been burried I can start the large bets, by the time the river comes I am sure to have all my chips in the pot, and I am not playing bingo with a blind all in. |
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KGBlovesOreos Moderator
Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 5318 Location: VA
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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| grip, is that how you play omaha? you see most flops for a cheap price, then rely on your postflop play? just wondering cuz i tend to play a little tighter in omaha since everybody always seems to have something... |
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GripHoldOn Message Board Junkie
Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 2096 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Of course, it takes a stronger hand in omaha to continue after the flop than it does in hold 'em. |
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KGBlovesOreos Moderator
Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 5318 Location: VA
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:30 am Post subject: |
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| oh... well, usually, i don't like to limp w/ any random hand... i usually need to see some connectors or at least a double suit (each suit w/ a face card) before i decide to limp... otherwise i'd just lose too many chips by seeing every hand... |
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Funkay Flex Straight Flush
Joined: 22 Oct 2005 Posts: 487 Location: VA
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:18 am Post subject: |
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| you should see almost every hand that has a double suit, i even see most hands that have just two suited cards b/c if i dont hit, i'll just get out. |
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Jaconda78 Message Board Junkie
Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 4177
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:35 am Post subject: Re: |
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| you should see almost every hand that has a double suit, i even see most hands that have just two suited cards b/c if i dont hit, i'll just get out. |
No no no no no. You do NOT want to play any two suited cards, same as you don't want to play like that in hold 'em! You won't hit often enough to get paid off for all the times you see the flop and chase only to miss, or miss the flop completely. Even if you hit your flush, you will very often be beat by a bigger flush or a full house. You want hands that have potential to win in more than one way, connectors, high pairs, etc. Don't EVER start playing any hand that's double suited - that's a quick road to a bank roll of $0.00. |
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Funkay Flex Straight Flush
Joined: 22 Oct 2005 Posts: 487 Location: VA
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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you gotta come in and raise in omaha when you have a strong hand. if you dont, you will be against a ton of draws and will probably lose the hand.
if you have some weaker connectors (i.e. 6-7-8-9), limping in and hoping to make your straight is probably the best choice.
Last edited by Funkay Flex on Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:19 am; edited 1 time in total |
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End3r Two Pair
Joined: 14 Aug 2005 Posts: 53 Location: Eindhoven, Holland
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| I like to play Omaha even more agressive than I play NL Hold'em. Most of the Omaha players like to have the nuts before they commit a lot of chips to the pot. I find pre-flop and flop betting rounds very usefull of narrowing the field with good hands. If I come into a pot I come in it raising just like I do at Hold'em, just like KGB I don't like to limp |
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DevilfishFan Royal Flush
Joined: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 906
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:18 pm Post subject: Re: |
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| Funkay Flex wrote: |
you gotta come in and raise in omaha when you have a strong hand. if you dont, you will be against a ton of draws and will probably lose the hand.
if you have some weaker connectors (i.e. 6-7-8-9), limping in and hoping to make your straight is probably the best choice. |
I'm new to the game, but you do not always raise with your strong hands. You re-raise, but you don't make the first raise. ESPECIALLY in early position.
1. Any good player knows you what you have, and if he hits two small pair he's gonna crack your aces.
2. An even bigger hand can make a big reraise and commit you before you even see the flop, and he'll have position on you if you're not all in. |
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