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drtre1987 · Message Board Junkie Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 2128

I just don't get it at all. I mean there was this terrible player at the table who called with a 7 high and no draw on the flop and hit a pair on the river. Then, his opponent started typing a bunch of crap about how he plays like a 2 yr old. All he ended up doing was making that player play better against the rest of the table. Hell, if he wants to call me w/ 7 high, then im happy to let him do it.
Then, later, I got caught bluffing against another player (who was tight passive and was capable of making a fold) and then the bad player from earlier started talking crap about my bluff. I didnt tell him about how it was a semi bluff that reduced the multi way pot to head ups and showed where i was in the hand.
and just now at my sng, a player was complaing that someone played a 73offsuit (in the big blind with a check)
dumb ppl indeed

JaneTheHot · Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:48 pm Post subject:

First of all, great comment. It is true that many players talk crap. I always welcome those players in my games, since they only bring easy money. Most of the time those players will be loose-aggresive, which means I can play passive and they will pay me off and when I check-raise them on the river, they will be force to pay. On other hand, some players talk crap when they are losing. Either way, you will only profit.

CitizenCain · Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:28 pm Post subject: Re: Why do players talk crap?

dumwaldo · Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:37 pm Post subject: Re: Why do players talk crap?

Spigwish · Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:33 pm Post subject:

Well said Dumwaldo. Cain usually has insightful comments, and I don't care for his bashing of new posters. Losing a hand when you think you have it in the bag is very aggravating, but "losing it" will only cause to play stupidly and lose money.

There is such a thing as common courtesy and etiquette, and too often it is sadly missing at the tables. Playing online, it is easy to think that you are playing in isolation, and that you can toss your inhibitions out the window, as well as all the manners your mother ever tried to teach you.

When confronted with a jerk at the tables, just turn off the player chat and remember this ... Don't let an a$$h@1e ruin your day.

Cheers

NOLEMIKE93 · Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:23 pm Post subject:

When did a game that used to be played in dark seedy backrooms become a gentlemans game?

CitizenCain · Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:42 pm Post subject: Re: Why do players talk crap?

griffinlord · Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:24 am Post subject:

I think the "gentleman's game" thing came about when pro's started to realize that treating the fish well and keeping them happy was profitable.

Back to the OP...two reasons:

1) emotion--usually coupled with a lack of experience and an inflated sense of accomplishment/knowledge. Half the time (or more) the trash talker shows a fair amount of ignorance as they display their "brilliant" poker knowledge.

Usually, but not always a lack of experience. Too many suck outs in a row and I start to get a bit cranky. But I never, ever tell off the donkey. I want my money back. If not now, then some day and if I abuse him he may take my money and go home never to play with me again.

2) some genuinely believe that tilting their opponent with trash talk is a great way to make more money. And in the short-run they might actually be right. But in the long-run they are idiots.

Jobe Gilchrist · Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:29 am Post subject:

You're all superheroes. Seriously.

"If I talk trash to somebody they might remember it months later because I'm this amazingly unique member of the astral plane and they'll feel my soul's vibration and never give me any more money." Jesus, get over yourselves. As long as you don't go completely ridiculous, you can say plenty of things to the average player and it won't have any effect on anything. Trying to create context and nuance in online poker doesn't make it automatically appear.

Yes, you want to give 110% at the tables, and take it one hand at a time. Blah blah blah, isn't there a D-I coaching job for you somewhere?

fire_eyes_2k · Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:03 am Post subject:

Whenever I see someone trash talking in a tourney, I automatically look them up on pokerdb to see what I'm up against. I can guarantee that they will be either very good or very bad, and it's very rare for them to be in between.

The worst keyboard bashing I ever took was from a player who currently has 35k winnings from over 200 cashes and 19 final tables. After checking up on him I was curious as to why he was acting like a moron, it's not like he had anything to prove! But I got back on with the tourney, and tightened up my play against him, but I was doing the opposite to everyone else. Most players turned into calling stations against him as they thought he was on tilt and deadmoney. They were wrong.

A bit later in that tournament that player and I were reunited at a different table and I asked if he was still mad at me. He said he never had been mad at me but had found that looking like a maniac made the table loosen up and play worse against him.

So thats my story of the day about trash talkers.

ridic x · Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:55 am Post subject:

Take into consideration there are a great number of young players who have yet to mature. There are many players under 18 and even more 18-25. Most are brash and have no real concept of the game past seeing it on TV. I think we all went through the "berating" people faze and when we decided to take a real interest in the game found berating to be -EV. I have although used table talk live to massively tilt a weaker player, works especially well if they just suffered a suckout of sorts.

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dumwaldo · Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:05 am Post subject:

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