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fenway8911
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Joined: 19 Oct 2005
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 Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 7:14 pm Post subject: bad beats keep |
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| do they ever stop online or is it ongoing lol? |
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fenway8911
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| Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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today alone ive lost about 6 hands i should have won
i have pockets tens and raise preflop and about 4 people call. 647 come up on flop..i raise knowing i have highest pair..i bet half the pot 1 person calls and reraises so i reraise all in. he has j6!!! mid pair..turn comes jack river comes 6!!its rediculous and that wasnt even the worst one |
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KGBlovesOreos
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Joined: 28 Jun 2005
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Location: VA
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| Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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| they're nonstop, lol! its just a part of poker b/c so many donkeys are out there... just learn how you could have avoided the situation to begin w/ (usually by betting more aggressively), and as long as you learn from your mistakes, you'll be fine... |
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BOYNAMEDSUE
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Joined: 27 Jun 2005
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Location: Isle of Tilt
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| Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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I sometimes think it might be better to wait until the turn to raise big, or go all-in, especially if I had an overpair, and 2 to the flush came on the board, and I was facing a donkey who will call big raises on a draw. I might just bet small on the flop, and see what the turn brings. If it's the flush card I can get away with not losing much.
Like when Men 'The Master' busted out last year, with AA. Dude called his all-in on just a flush draw. He risked most of his chips, early in the tournament, on a draw. Well, that's a bad example, because dude hit top pair, and still had the flush draw, so Men 'The Master' was bound to lose that hand regardless.
And I agree with KGBlovesOreos. Usually what people think are 'bad beats', are the result of not betting enough pre-flop. Also, many people think they are victums of bad beats because they don't know the odds.
I was short stacked in a live tourney last week, and went all-in with Q5s. I was called by AK, and when I flopped a Q, he got upset, saying how it was a bad beat. No, it wasn't a bad beat, I was only 2-1 dog. |
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Wolfsong
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Joined: 20 Sep 2005
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Location: Northeast Tennessee
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| Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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| KGBlovesOreos wrote: |
| they're nonstop, lol! its just a part of poker b/c so many donkeys are out there... just learn how you could have avoided the situation to begin w/ (usually by betting more aggressively), and as long as you learn from your mistakes, you'll be fine... |
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| And I agree with KGBlovesOreos. Usually what people think are 'bad beats', are the result of not betting enough pre-flop. Also, many people think they are victums of bad beats because they don't know the odds. |
Exactly so. I, too, have noticed that many people complain about "bad beats" when their hand was only a marginal favorite, or when they bet their hand in amounts that virtually guarantee a call by anyone who understands the odds. I can't tell you how many times someone has complained about me chasing a flush when they were only betting $0.25 into a pot that was well over $1.00. OF COURSE I'm going to call!
I would love to see one of our more seasoned players start a new thread about what is and isn't a bad beat. |
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