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panther07
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Joined: 27 Feb 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:44 am    Post subject: Critique Reply with quote

I wanted to find out how big of a Donk I am. Playing .25/.50 PLO, I called a raise of 3X BB with small pair and two big suited cards. The player that made the raise was in a lot of hands. One other person called. I flopped middle set with a flush draw. It was a small board. I bet 2/3 of the pot and was immediately raise by original raiser. Other guy folded. My analysis was an overpair and a reraise would get my opponent to fold, which I did. He called with a straight and a bigger flush draw. I got lucky and caught quads. How bad was I?
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Tim James
High Card


Joined: 21 Nov 2006
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Location: Detroit, Mi

PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone wanna teach me to play omaha ive tried to learn it on my own but I dont get what im doing
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kenobi
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Joined: 15 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Critique Reply with quote

panther07 wrote:
I wanted to find out how big of a Donk I am. Playing .25/.50 PLO, I called a raise of 3X BB with small pair and two big suited cards. The player that made the raise was in a lot of hands. One other person called. I flopped middle set with a flush draw. It was a small board. I bet 2/3 of the pot and was immediately raise by original raiser. Other guy folded. My analysis was an overpair and a reraise would get my opponent to fold, which I did. He called with a straight and a bigger flush draw. I got lucky and caught quads. How bad was I?


Middle set is not as strong of a hand in Omaha as it is in Hold'em, especially with a possible straight already on the board. Also, you do not want to play your flush draws fast if they're not the nut flush.

Even if you think your opponent is someone that will overplay big pairs post flop, when he reraises your probably looking at AA with the nut flush draw, or a big pair with connectors that just hit the straight. In either case your set is really a full house draw. (Assuming your opponent isn't a complete maniac).
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kenobi
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tim James wrote:
Anyone wanna teach me to play omaha ive tried to learn it on my own but I dont get what im doing


The fastest way to learn is to read the Pot Limit Omaha section of Super System 2.
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Strasse
Forum Ego


Joined: 16 Nov 2005
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Location: Austin, TX

PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you gave specific hands, we could better evaluate.
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jbrennen
Straight Flush


Joined: 16 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Critique Reply with quote

panther07 wrote:
I wanted to find out how big of a Donk I am. Playing .25/.50 PLO, I called a raise of 3X BB with small pair and two big suited cards. The player that made the raise was in a lot of hands. One other person called. I flopped middle set with a flush draw. It was a small board. I bet 2/3 of the pot and was immediately raise by original raiser. Other guy folded. My analysis was an overpair and a reraise would get my opponent to fold, which I did. He called with a straight and a bigger flush draw. I got lucky and caught quads. How bad was I?


Stack sizes please!!

When analyzing PLO, stack size information is crucial. It's possible given a particular hand and betting information (so far) that your correct decision may be raise, call, or fold, depending only on stack sizes.

Also, if the flop has a possible straight, your opponent reraises you, and your "analysis was an overpair"... Either you have a strong read that your opponent is a donkey, or you need to work on your hand-reading skills, or both. The problem is, even if your opponent is a donkey, even donkeys sometimes flop the nuts in Omaha.
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jbrennen
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Critique Reply with quote

jbrennen wrote:
Also, if the flop has a possible straight, your opponent reraises you, and your "analysis was an overpair"... Either you have a strong read that your opponent is a donkey, or you need to work on your hand-reading skills, or both.


Before anybody protests, note that I'm not saying that a reraise in that situation with an overpair is necessarily a donkey move.

However, a good Omaha player (a "non-donkey") will reraise there with an overpair infrequently enough that you should usually give him credit for a much better hand.
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panther07
Two Pair


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how do you actually post the hand history? I'm sure there is a thread somewhere that tells you how to do it?
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