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DevilfishFan · Royal Flush Joined: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 906

After a few bad nights in a row, I sat down and thought about what the problem might be. I came to the conclusion that I was falling in love with big pairs and not folding when necessary. Big pairs other than aces are crap if you have 3,4, or god forbid 5 players in the pot on 5th st.

If you know anything about the game you know you don't chase after half the pot. Well, if you have dry kings and two opponents who aren't donkeys showing:

(x-x) 5-6-8
and
(x-x) A-2-4

1. They're freerolling on you and all they have to beat is one pair.

2. It's about get real expensive real fast and you're gonna be the caller in the middle of the raising war. You'll find better spots for your money

The no chase rule applies to both halves. It took me awhile to really figure that out. Embarassed

While I'm on the subject, small pairs with an ace kicker have value, but hands like 3-3-5 are overrated. I usually find myself folding on fourth even when I catch another baby because a couple players caught good too and I'm behind high and low.

I hope this helps someone Wink

AllInDrawinDead · Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 6:26 pm Post subject:

I agree. A pair of Aces with a low kicker (2-8) is a golden starting hand. Aces are the key to any H/L game because they go both ways. Kings and Queens are good for the high but if you start with them you are either going to have to backdoor a low or improve to win the high. It's important to remember that without an A in your hand, it's very hard to scoop.

dannyboya · High Card Joined: 27 Nov 2006 Posts: 10

Yeah, I'm done with high hands too, and I seem to be winning more. I will play if I think I can get it heads up or 3 handed but usually I'm up against 4-6 opponents. I have been folding Kings against multiple limpers, especially if I see another King out. Am I playing too tight? It just seems like I have to fold these hands by 5th street when I don't improve.

BOYNAMEDSUE · Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:31 pm Post subject:

Chip Reese was on The Circuit and he mentioned that big pairs in stud8 weren't good hands at all. It's hard to think that way, I mean, we're all so used to playing holdem.

Think of stud8 as razz8. Only play hands that can win both high and low.

DevilfishFan · Royal Flush Joined: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 906

Shorthanded and heads up against a low hand or a worse high hand are the only times I play them anymore.

Paprika · Full House Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Posts: 194

I was able to play some 3-6 Stud8 today for about an hour at my local casino. Not only were people playing big pairs but medium and small ones all the time! I Could not believe some of the hands that were shown down. I came very close to some big scoops hands like 4 to a wheel etc. against a pair of Q's or a small 2 pairs like 8's and 3's!. I ended up splitting some pots here and there. It was a fun short session. I feel like I have some sort of a connection with this game. For some reason I feel very comfortable playing it compared to any other live game. I have yet to play stud hi live. Not much going today except for a 1-2 table that looked rather slow. It is usually pretty hard to find a live stud8 game going. At this place it is usually regulars. Pretty passive and very people to boot. Except for the hand which the nice guy next to me checked in the dark before 5th street came out, his buddy thought that he meant he was going to check it all the way down but he didn't and made his flush on 5th!

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