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DAM47 Pair
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 34 Location: North Dakota
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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:25 pm Post subject: what percentage of hands to see the flop |
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| I was just wondering what would be a good percentage of flops most consider about right to see. I know they say about 15% on holdem but you will most likely see a lot more in ohmaha 8. just kind of looking for a guideline to see if I am seeing too many flops or am about right. it seems like I don't see as many as most people I play with. Also is there a way to see your stats from the whole time you played on ftp? thanks. |
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Jaconda78 Message Board Junkie
Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 4177
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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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| About 30% tends to be a good place to be - not extremely tight, but it allows you to win pots from donkeys going for the nut low no matter what comes. Just make sure you have potential to scoop, not just take high or just low. |
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guitarguy178 Message Board Junkie
Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Posts: 1946 Location: At the crossroads
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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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| As far as tracking all of your hands, you would need some sort of software, such as the omaha version of poker tracker. I am not sure if this works for O8 though, I would assume that it does. |
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COMRAD Royal Flush
Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Posts: 732 Location: california
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 4:41 am Post subject: |
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| I like jacondas 30% but i would say 33.33% just because she is so text book.This way the math is easier!..........1 outta 3!Jacondas way is like 1 outta every 3 point blablabla hands.My ways easier,besides she just works here. |
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Jaconda78 Message Board Junkie
Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 4177
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:09 am Post subject: Re: |
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| COMRAD wrote: |
| I like jacondas 30% but i would say 33.33% just because she is so text book.This way the math is easier!..........1 outta 3!Jacondas way is like 1 outta every 3 point blablabla hands.My ways easier,besides she just works here. |
*sigh* Welcome back, comrad. We missed you (sort of). |
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COMRAD Royal Flush
Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Posts: 732 Location: california
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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I was wondering if I would ever catch your attention jaconda.Congrats on the position, full tilt could not have done a better job recruiting you and grip.I hope you both enjoy your new jobs.
Thx.......i missed you too. |
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GripHoldOn Message Board Junkie
Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 2098 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:58 pm Post subject: Re: |
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Speak for yourself!
I COMRAD! |
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Uncle_Buz Four of a Kind
Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Posts: 263 Location: Tampa (formerly Ann Arbor)
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 2:13 pm Post subject: How to scoop, High only! |
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[Just make sure you have potential to scoop, not just take high or just low.][/quote]
Just High can be a good starting hand because about half the time, due to the 8 qualifier, a low becomes impossible!
Anyone know the true odds that by the river, there will be no low possible?  |
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DAM47 Pair
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 34 Location: North Dakota
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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| I think I read somewhere that there will be no low land 45% or the time does that sound right? |
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SpaceDaze High Card
Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 10
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Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 7:56 pm Post subject: 30% is highish |
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When playing four tables i like to see around 25% of the flops, because then I don't have to think too hard,
I'm always drawing to the nuts.
You lose out some value, but playing just a2 and four suited broadway cards is the way to learn cheap and get a feel
Some of the better players here can get away with almost 50% but the swings are higher and you need to be focused. |
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MotownPoker High Card
Joined: 13 Aug 2006 Posts: 10
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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| I second what SpaceDaze said. I have had my best sessions seeing about 25% of flops. I usually play .5/1$ PLO8. I'm a stud/hold'em player, O8 is my first split pot game but so far so good. |
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Darkseid High Card
Joined: 20 Oct 2006 Posts: 8
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:55 pm Post subject: It totally depends on the table |
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| and your ability to read hands, etc., etc. If you never defend your blinds, people will always steal from you. If you always play the same types of hands, people will read you like a book. |
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laikos High Card
Joined: 13 Nov 2006 Posts: 16 Location: Santa Cruz
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:25 pm Post subject: Re: How to scoop, High only! |
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Just High can be a good starting hand because about half the time, due to the 8 qualifier, a low becomes impossible!
Anyone know the true odds that by the river, there will be no low possible? [/quote]
A high only hand has roughly 43% to hit 2 cards 9 or better on the flop. But in order to take full advantage of this, you really don't want to play high hands like KQJ4. You want all 4 of your cards high. I'm taking this from Steve Capeletti's book on high/low omaha.
Re: # of players to the flop: if it's more than 37% in an online game, I'm standing up and looking for a tighter table. |
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boobynator High Card
Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 12
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| beginners should play fewer hands than experienced players if it feels like your playing fewer hands than everyone else thats probably good. for beginers it is good to play by the "never leave home without it rule" which means no matter how pretty your hand is if it does not have an ace dont play. This means folding beauties like KK23 and KKQJ even if they are double suited but these playable ace-less hands are few and far between and hit very few flops. they require a strong understanding of the game to play profitably and you wont miss out on many monster pots by not playing them. About 29% of Omaha starters contain Aces so stick to the rule and youll end up playing 10 to 15 percent of the time |
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johnfallon Three of a Kind
Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 97
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if you're afraid to play KK23ds or KKQJds ...especially in a limit game... seems Way to tight, even for a beginner.
i'm not a long time omaha player, but you can have some great flops with a hand like this. a flop of A57 with four to a flush for you would be a monster.
omaha is tough to read, but it seems like a lot of people who move from holdem to omaha don't want to use their poker knowledge/skill to play it.
i see a LOT of "trying to get lucky" players
it's funny when the entire table limps... then you get to limp with great odds... then when you "draw out" on them, they get all pissed
the average player limps more and there are less pre flop raises... or preflop raises with the "right" cards
but again, i've only played for a little bit. |
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