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WickedCity
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Joined: 10 Nov 2006
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 Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:17 pm Post subject: Could I Have Played This Better? |
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I have been reading this forum quite often and have picked up quite a few tips, thanks everyone! It's about time for me to stop lurking and start posting, so here is a specific hand from earlier tonight where I am unsure if I played this hand correctly and am interested in some criticisim.
I know I misplayed the river but what about before that?
Full Tilt Poker Game #1226611633: Table Swenson - $0.25/$0.50 - Limit Hold'em - 21:09:12 ET - 2006/11/10
Seat 1: KGram21 ($9.05)
Seat 2: Ozomatli ($13.15)
Seat 3: JustJune06 ($9.60)
Seat 4: Zeeza ($7.35)
Seat 5: lawnguy47 ($35.10)
Seat 6: WickedCity ($30.35)
Seat 7: boycott_food ($18.25)
Seat 8: gus55mi ($14.25)
Seat 9: mk1063 ($4.50)
Ozomatli posts the small blind of $0.10
JustJune06 posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to WickedCity [Ac Ad]
Zeeza calls $0.25
lawnguy47 folds
WickedCity raises to $0.50
boycott_food folds
gus55mi calls $0.50
mk1063 folds
KGram21 calls $0.50
Ozomatli folds
JustJune06 calls $0.25
Zeeza calls $0.25
*** FLOP *** [4c 8s As]
JustJune06 checks
Zeeza bets $0.25
WickedCity raises to $0.50
gus55mi folds
KGram21 calls $0.50
JustJune06 folds
Zeeza calls $0.25
*** TURN *** [4c 8s As] [Jh]
Zeeza checks
WickedCity bets $0.50
KGram21 raises to $1
Zeeza calls $1
WickedCity raises to $1.50
KGram21 raises to $2
Zeeza calls $1
WickedCity calls $0.50
*** RIVER *** [4c 8s As Jh] [5c]
Zeeza checks
WickedCity bets $0.50
KGram21 raises to $1
Zeeza raises to $1.50
WickedCity raises to $2
KGram21 calls $1
Zeeza calls $0.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
WickedCity shows [Ac Ad] (three of a kind, Aces)
KGram21 mucks (had pocket JJ and turned a set)
Zeeza shows [3s 2s] (a straight, Five high)
Zeeza wins the pot ($15.60) with a straight, Five high |
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Riddim
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Joined: 04 Dec 2005
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Location: Sweden
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| Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 12:14 am Post subject: |
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| I don't even know if I can agree with you on misplaying the river. You played the hand fine, you just happened to get sucked out on. |
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Honest_Rob
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Joined: 21 Jul 2005
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Location: counting my blessings
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| Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 12:51 am Post subject: |
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| I agree with riddim. You played it fine. You had damn near the nuts on the river. I don't think anyone would say capping in that situation is wrong. |
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godfather199
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Joined: 04 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 12:54 am Post subject: |
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This is the problem with Limit Holdem , U cannot bet people out of a hand  |
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bigwheell
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Location: North Dakota
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| Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:15 am Post subject: |
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You played it fine...River play was good also...
The guy played very bad poker and got lucky...
Thanks for posting and feel free to join in and discuss any of the threads in the limit section... |
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bigwheell
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Joined: 27 Apr 2006
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Location: North Dakota
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| Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:22 am Post subject: |
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| godfather199 wrote: |
| This is the problem with Limit Holdem , U cannot bet people out of a hand |
This is actually a good thing in limit poker...I will let that guy try and draw to his gutshot all day long. He will make it roughly 1 out of 10 times. The rest of the time, he is donating money to the pot.
It sucks when he catches against you, but winning with his gutshot everyonce in a while will keep him motivated and drawing to low percentage draws while he bleeds his chipstack away... |
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Riddim
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| Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:30 am Post subject: |
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| bigwheell wrote: |
This is actually a good thing in limit poker...I will let that guy try and draw to his gutshot all day long. He will make it roughly 1 out of 10 times. The rest of the time, he is donating money to the pot.
It sucks when he catches against you, but winning with his gutshot everyonce in a while will keep him motivated and drawing to low percentage draws while he bleeds his chipstack away... |
I'd say that the only move that he's bleeding his stack away with is his pre-flop limp. After the flop he had a gutshot and a flush draw in a fairly big multi-way pot. |
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IABoomer
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Joined: 29 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:36 am Post subject: |
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A flush draw, yes. But the absolute worst possible flush draw, and a strong chance of it being a reverse implied odds hand, where he makes his flush and loses more to a bigger flush.
Considering the action in this pot, I'd be scared to see the flush fill holding 2s 3s here. But yes, you want them making those bad calls the whole way down. The only thing you don't want is for them to recognize how ugly that play was and leave the table in fear/shame.
Offer them a "nice river". |
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bigwheell
Royal Flush
Joined: 27 Apr 2006
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Location: North Dakota
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| Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:41 am Post subject: |
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My reply was not specific to that hand...
In reference to the hand,
He probably had the odds to go the river with that hand, but I will bet you 20 bucks that pot odds didn't cross his mind as he called his way through that hand... he was just chanting to himself come on...5, come on...5, come on...5, come on...5, come on...5 |
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WickedCity
High Card
Joined: 10 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:32 am Post subject: |
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Thanks everyone for your great replies. I stepped back through the hand with Poker Tracker and if my math is correct he hand about 14 outs (10 for flush plus 4 for gutshot) which would be more than enough for his call to be profitable unless someone was drawing to a higher flush.
Having played lots of hands with Zeeza before I really don't think he considers pots odds or outs (bigwheell gets his 20 bucks here), as I have seen him many times in small pots chasing just a gutshot without any overcards in his hand (he has auto-muck turned off).
The reason I felt I misplayed the river was because I've seen him chase the weakest of draws and therefore when I was checkraised I knew I really should have just called. |
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