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Online Poker Forum - For the Razzers that's seen them all
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CrazyJoeDavola
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Joined: 05 Oct 2005
Posts: 393

PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:16 pm    Post subject: For the Razzers that's seen them all Reply with quote

I had a hand a few days ago that was truly laughable, I just switched to a laptop and didn't set my save hand histories but I'll try to put it together the best I can recall.

To summarize:
$5 Razz SnG
3 players in the hand
J is the bring-in
I'm second to act (and complete)and have A3 (4 up)
3rd player calls and has a 5 up
Bring-in calls

4th st
Bring-in has a 10, checks
I get a 2, bet
3rd player folds
Bring-in calls

5th st
Bring-in has a 8, checks
I get an A, bet
Bring-in calls

6th st

Bring-in has a 7, checks
I get a 3, bet
Bring-in calls

7th st
Bring-in checks
I get a K, bet

I end up losing to a Q low

with my A234 showing the guy kept calling and ends up winning the damn hand, lol.
I'm sure Scott & others that play alot have seen similar hands, just thought this was obscene Razz play, I guess I should've checked on 7th since I knew this quack wasn't going to budge, lol.

Maybe he pushed the wrong game at buy-in, that's about the only explanation I can come up with.
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UFO1947
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Joined: 08 Jun 2006
Posts: 3306
Location: NS, Canada

PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i had a guy call a raise and then my reraise with 999 showing, i won the hand.
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guitarguy178
Message Board Junkie


Joined: 24 Jul 2005
Posts: 1916
Location: St. Louis

PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CrazyJoe, that is a typical $5 Razz SnG. They bring some of the worst players I have ever seen. You know the odds will work out in your favor, but those kinds of hands can just ruin your whole SnG. As soon as he called with the j 10 showing you should have slowed down a bit until you made your hand. I know that doesn't seem like sound strategy, but it saves you a chip or two when morons call you down like that and you brick brick brick. (that only applies to tournaments where odds are less important than chip stacks)
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AlexScottUK
Straight Flush


Joined: 30 Jun 2005
Posts: 416
Location: Isle of Man

PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a similar hand recently (in a $15/$30 cash game no less), only I ended up with a very smooth king low on the river. I had something ridiculous like 5432 showing - he had Q-2-9-8 (after calling with the queen on third).

For some reason, I decided to check the river, and proceeded to kick myself several times after he checked and took the pot with a rough queen.

By the way, how come the bring-in is acting first in your description of this hand? He should be acting after you, not before you.
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CrazyJoeDavola
Straight Flush


Joined: 05 Oct 2005
Posts: 393

PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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By the way, how come the bring-in is acting first in your description of this hand? He should be acting after you, not before you.

Right you are Alex, that'll teach me for not checking the save hand history box Sad
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LynchCats
High Card


Joined: 19 Oct 2006
Posts: 10
Location: New York

PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:18 pm    Post subject: Re: For the Razzers that's seen them all Reply with quote

CrazyJoeDavola wrote:
I had a hand a few days ago that was truly laughable, I just switched to a laptop and didn't set my save hand histories but I'll try to put it together the best I can recall.

To summarize:
$5 Razz SnG
3 players in the hand
J is the bring-in
I'm second to act (and complete)and have A3 (4 up)
3rd player calls and has a 5 up
Bring-in calls

4th st
Bring-in has a 10, checks
I get a 2, bet
3rd player folds
Bring-in calls

5th st
Bring-in has a 8, checks
I get an A, bet
Bring-in calls

6th st

Bring-in has a 7, checks
I get a 3, bet
Bring-in calls

7th st
Bring-in checks
I get a K, bet

I end up losing to a Q low

with my A234 showing the guy kept calling and ends up winning the damn hand, lol.
I'm sure Scott & others that play alot have seen similar hands, just thought this was obscene Razz play, I guess I should've checked on 7th since I knew this quack wasn't going to budge, lol.

Maybe he pushed the wrong game at buy-in, that's about the only explanation I can come up with.


That's the problem with small razz sit n go's and freerolls, they'll chase anything and hope you hit. Any good player would have folded by 5th street at the very latest.
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HalfStackStu
Pair


Joined: 26 Oct 2006
Posts: 26

PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just today I was raised by someone who had QQJJ showing. People are odd.
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CrustyFace
Pair


Joined: 21 Jul 2006
Posts: 26

PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found that the best thing to do at the low levels is to wait to you are pretty sure you have them beat before you bet. The standard is so low, not only that but you get alot of people who have never played it before and therefore have no idea what the hell they are doing and play for high.
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AlexScottUK
Straight Flush


Joined: 30 Jun 2005
Posts: 416
Location: Isle of Man

PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CrustyFace wrote:
I found that the best thing to do at the low levels is to wait to you are pretty sure you have them beat before you bet.


I disagree. That strategy may break even or might be slightly profitable, but you'll make more money in the long run by pushing every edge you can get.
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I HATE CAPS
Straight Flush


Joined: 05 Oct 2006
Posts: 357

PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

when i play razz my strategy is simple. bet bet bet when i am ahead(based on what i have and what i see of my opponent), check/call if im a little behind but have a good draw, and fold if i know i cant win. is this anywhere near good strategy or am i playing horribly wrong?
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Big Slick x13x
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Joined: 18 Jun 2006
Posts: 4317
Location: ROK

PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I HATE CAPS wrote:
when i play razz my strategy is simple. bet bet bet when i am ahead(based on what i have and what i see of my opponent), check/call if im a little behind but have a good draw, and fold if i know i cant win. is this anywhere near good strategy or am i playing horribly wrong?


You're playing straight up, good, solid, abc poker. At the lower levels this is all that's required to turn a profit. The only time you really have to worry about advanced play is if you want to move up to higher limits where everyone knows what they're doing and players can set up huge bluffs or make insanely good calls.
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asfispimp
Message Board Junkie


Joined: 22 Jul 2006
Posts: 1763
Location: vegas

PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dude thats the worst play Ive ever seen, keep playing that way and you'll win in the long haul so donot worry about it. Whats the guys name? Ill play anyday all day with him.
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Piney1000
Four of a Kind


Joined: 08 Oct 2005
Posts: 300
Location: Crappy State ILL

PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I had a big bank roll you should see the 30/60 game. I have seen some really bad play. I seen Jaconda78t this .


Oh by the way where is Jaconda78 ????
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earthslash
High Card


Joined: 14 Oct 2006
Posts: 11

PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Things like that are certainly frustrating. I lost a hand to someone the other day who thought they were playing Stud instead of Razz. They had a pair of aces showing and kept raising my bets. Somehow they managed to hit an 8 low on 7th street while I hit two pair on the river and only managed a 9 low. The person started asking why they won the pot since I had two pair... eventually someone chimed in telling them the game wasn't Stud. And it was in a $24+2 tournament too. Gotta wonder if people even read before entering some of the games on full tilt.
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FsuBostonMike
Pair


Joined: 10 Nov 2006
Posts: 36
Location: Boston, MA

PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The simple explanation is that...well its a 5$ sng, and with such low stakes your gonna run into alot of players who might not even know how to play the game, I've run into situations on certain sites where a player will reraise every bet/check, showing 2 pair.
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