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deadmoney314
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 Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:17 am Post subject: Smaller Stakes HE |
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| Adjusting to 1/2 6max has been quite a ride and not without the occasional surprise. After weeks now of playing in the cellar of 6max I have noticed play sometimes gets quite good. I think this adds to the theory that more of the sharks have decided to stay in proportion to fish. It is not a landslide by any means but I have noticed a few more opponents than I expected making plays that require thought processes that you normally don't find at 1/2. I am often finding 3 players or more at my table playing ~24/14/3 which is not exactly scary, but does lower my expectation for "easy" money. I've enjoyed many intriguing hands throughout this and there are still plenty of fish around, just thought I would comment on this. |
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KGBlovesOreos
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| Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:01 pm Post subject: Re: Smaller Stakes HE |
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| I am often finding 3 players or more at my table playing ~24/14/3 which is not exactly scary, but does lower my expectation for "easy" money. |
What do those numbers represent? I have see screenshots of tables where those numbers somehow overlay on the screen via a seperate program, but I have no idea what this could be. Any help is appreciated. |
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griffinlord
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I'm not all that surprised. I've often read that 1/2 online plays more like 3/6 or 4/8 live--plenty of fish, but some good players who've moved up from 2/4.
I think online you have a situation where a number of decent players are starting out at .05/.1 or .25/.50 and working their way up to 1/2 (and above). (or have become decent players by working their way up). You'll certainly be seeing some folks at 1/2 who are moving up to 2/4 in the next week/month/6 months.
You'll also have a handful of folks who've had a bad run at 2/4 or 3/6 and had to move down to rebuild.
And you'll have decent part-timers (less than 10 hours per week) who have some talent, but don't have the time to develop the talent enough to move up past 1/2. |
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deadmoney314
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| Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:13 pm Post subject: Re: Smaller Stakes HE |
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| KGBlovesOreos wrote: |
| deadmoney314 wrote: |
| I am often finding 3 players or more at my table playing ~24/14/3 which is not exactly scary, but does lower my expectation for "easy" money. |
What do those numbers represent? I have see screenshots of tables where those numbers somehow overlay on the screen via a seperate program, but I have no idea what this could be. Any help is appreciated. |
the first number is VP$IP which stands for "voluntarily put money in the pot preflop". It is a gauge on how loose your opponents play preflop, i.e. if they cold call raise and re-raise because they are oblivous or don't care what a preflop raise from UTG means etc. A lot can be read into the number but I use it to gauge someone's hand selection.
the second number is PFR (preflop raise percentage), in combination with VP$IP I think it is a good way to find out what you are likely to be up against with the opponent.
The last number is aggression factor, it is decided on whether they prefer raise and re-raising as opposed to calling checking and folding. The ratio is derived from these numbers and a higher aggression factor means more aggressive (above 1.5) and a low number means passive (below 1.0). |
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bigwheell
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I cannot comment on the 1-2 as I have not been up there yet, since before the online poker ban. At .50-1 I am seeing more TA, TAA, and SLAA players at the tables, but there seem to be just as many LPP Fish out there as before. Post flop play is still pretty weak and I have been doing alright. I think the biggest change for me is that hands that were playable for a profit on PreBan PP are not profitable on FT or UB as the preflop aggression has notched up a bit. I am throwing away enough hands to get my VP$IP down to 16%-20% compared to 20%-25% when on PP.
I have been sitting down at the 6max tables from time to time. 6max is faster, more interesting, but it takes most of my concentration. I think I would have a hard time 2 or 3 tabling 6max for a good profit. |
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