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djh855 High Card
Joined: 05 Apr 2006 Posts: 2
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:49 pm Post subject: Online Cheating Programs |
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| I was surfing around trying to find some poker tips and I ran across this site. http://www.pokercheatingsystem.com/ I would never use one of these programs but am curious if a lot of people are using them. What actions is Full Tilt Poker taking to make sure we are not losing tons of money to people simply cheating the system. This makes me nervous and if I can't be convinced that this isn't happening then I will be done with my online poker life. Any comments, ideas, or thoughts on what this program is. Is it maybe just a big scam? |
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lentes130 Flush
Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Posts: 137 Location: Pennsylvania
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Make between $10,000 and $84,000.........lol if this was true couldn't you make more. |
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emoney_33 Full House
Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 199
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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| My brother and I were talking about this the other day. With the RNG it's impossible to find out the next card however what prevents hackers (yea yea dont wanna hear it innocent hackers and how the term hacker is used wrong) from knowing what other players on the table hold? I guess you'd have to either hack into fulltilt or whatever poker company and into wherever they store information about each player's cards or hack into each specific player's computer to see what they are holding. Of course that being illegal and all, this site is probably a big scam to steal greedy cheater's money. They definitely aren't distributing software that illegally hacks into fulltilt and other sites. |
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se7en10 Four of a Kind
Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 308
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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A while back, I was downloading everything I could find that was poker related off of Direct Connect, and I came across a PDF that was something like, "How to Win At Online Poker".
It was an older document, but within I found mostly useless and stupid advice on ways to "beat the RNG", and telling you vague patterns on how cards tended to fall on the flop based on the hand you held. Basically, it was something like, "If you hold Js6s, and it's Tuesday before 9am PDT, go allin preflop". (Most of the advice I remember seemed flush related.)
While Pokercheatingsystem makes much bigger claims than this, I suspect it is about what you get for your $49.95. It's not software, it's two PDF files. Which means it's something you read and learn, not software that reaches out and gathers information.
A "long time ago", (which really means "more recently than I'd like to admit" (years though)), I bought a program/system on how to make money selling things online. Guess what it was. It was a shoddy PDF file with scraps of useful information, the instructions on how to sell useless PDFs to suckers, but otherwise, mostly full of fluff, (like "Dummies" books). People that are selling files like this just slap a new pseudonym on the file(s), make a copy of the garbage webpage from whence it came, and start doing it all again.
Blah...I should write a crap 13 page PDF with my "amazing poker insights and cheat-like poker winning system" and do what they do.... Hmm....
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ThunderCrew Message Board Junkie
Joined: 04 May 2006 Posts: 3544 Location: Illinois, Usa
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Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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| (yea yea dont wanna hear it innocent hackers and how the term hacker is used wrong) |
hahaha 8) |
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Blissa High Card
Joined: 07 Oct 2007 Posts: 1
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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With the RNG it's impossible to find out the next card however what prevents hackers
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a 256-bit SSL encryption prevents them, In recent years computing power has increased to the level that 40 bit security can be "cracked" by brute force computing in a matter of hours. 40 bit encryption is therefore considered insecure. (do you understand?) This level of encryption delivers the highest possible security, and using the same computation power that would crack 40 bit encryption in hours, will take billions of years to crack 256 bit encryption. Ever hear of GlobalSign? go google it since I know by fact you have no idea what you are talking about. oh and by the way Hackers know better, wouldn't even attempt a 256 bit ssl encryption.
(Damn hackers they're all alike.)
You abused the privlage of stupidity for that post, you should have did research before making claims. that goes for all of you, I will guide you to intelligence (http://www.globalsign.com/) go learn. |
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IABoomer Moderator
Joined: 29 Oct 2006 Posts: 10709
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Blissa wrote: |
With the RNG it's impossible to find out the next card however what prevents hackers
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a 256-bit SSL encryption prevents them, In recent years computing power has increased to the level that 40 bit security can be "cracked" by brute force computing in a matter of hours. 40 bit encryption is therefore considered insecure. (do you understand?) This level of encryption delivers the highest possible security, and using the same computation power that would crack 40 bit encryption in hours, will take billions of years to crack 256 bit encryption. Ever hear of GlobalSign? go google it since I know by fact you have no idea what you are talking about. oh and by the way Hackers know better, wouldn't even attempt a 256 bit ssl encryption.
(Damn hackers they're all alike.)
You abused the privlage of stupidity for that post, you should have did research before making claims. that goes for all of you, I will guide you to intelligence (http://www.globalsign.com/) go learn. |
It has nothing to do with the level of SSL encryption. It has to do with the deck being in a constant state of shuffle and the RNG being truly random based on a hardware source of entropy, not a pseudo-random generator with a predictable seed.
P.S., to call someone stupid for their post, then use the phrase "should have did" really hurts your credibility. |
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OB-Wan222 Four of a Kind
Joined: 30 Jun 2007 Posts: 283
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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djh855 "This makes me nervous and if I can't be convinced that this isn't happening then I will be done with my online poker life."
Goodbye, you might as well leave now. After all, what would you consider proof that something isn't happening?
There's an old saying in science that has nothing to do with gambling -
It's impossible to prove a negative. |
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Kappa-KoReal Straight
Joined: 27 Aug 2007 Posts: 125
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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All i know is...
People will always find a way around every obstacle if there is enough money in it for them....
Full Tilt is not immune to cheating and there are alot a more cheating going on than anyone on these forums admit....
whether it be some dude hacking into the site and gaining godlike powers to see your cards and/or the flop.... or if its just two people colluding over AOL/AIM .... there IS and always will be CHEATING going on with online poker.
ALWAYS
so take your money and buy a smoothie. They're delicious. |
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FOUR ASES Message Board Junkie
Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Posts: 1818 Location: My Own Little Town
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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| LOL, Your all wrong. I can see everyone's cards at every table. All you have to do is just put a mirror behind your monitor screen. Then you can see all the cards. |
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griffinlord Message Board Junkie
Joined: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 2467 Location: The Great Plains of South Dakota
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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| All you have to do is just put a mirror behind your monitor screen. Then you can see all the cards. |
Damn....I knew that my opponents were on to something....
Anyone know where I can buy a nice rear view mirror for my monitor??  |
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snowsurfer31 Pair
Joined: 27 Sep 2007 Posts: 41
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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wuttado High Card
Joined: 06 Nov 2007 Posts: 1
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| The cheat is the house players tilt puts in every game. You know that guy who wins every hand he plays. Knows just when to play 2 7 offsuit to hit the full house. |
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IABoomer Moderator
Joined: 29 Oct 2006 Posts: 10709
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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| The cheat is the house players tilt puts in every game. You know that guy who wins every hand he plays. Knows just when to play 2 7 offsuit to hit the full house. |
This is the reason I'm inclined to say old posts should be locked after a certain period of time. It saves us "epic" bumps like this one.
Well bumped, and way to stay on topic.  |
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FOUR ASES Message Board Junkie
Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Posts: 1818 Location: My Own Little Town
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:50 am Post subject: |
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| LOL, Your all wrong. I can see everyone's cards at every table. All you have to do is just put a mirror behind your monitor screen. Then you can see all the cards. |
Ok, I've got to get back winning again. Back goes on the mirror. |
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