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mathman1115
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:23 am    Post subject: In a slump after moving up limits Reply with quote

I was consistently beating the .10/.25 NL games for about 6 months. I recently decided to move up in limits to .25/.50 NL because my bankroll was well equipped (over 1K) and the lower limits were just boring me.
I had some success early on, but in the last 7 days i have taken a 4 max buyin swing in the negative direction (roughly 200 bucks).
I'm sure my play has not been perfect, but i'm wondering if this is a normal variance. I haven't had the greatest luck either, missing draws and having good hands get busted, but i'm wondering if i am overplaying some hands or just simply getting outplayed.
My question is do i chalk this up as typical variance and just plug away to get a larger sample size or is there anything else i can do to get through this? My sample size is 2000K hands, which i know is nothing, but i don't want to play 10K more hands to find out i am not good enough at this level either lol.
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KarlDykhuis
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Joined: 27 Feb 2006
Posts: 135
Location: Minnesota

PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:01 am    Post subject: Re: In a slump after moving up limits Reply with quote

mathman1115 wrote:
I was consistently beating the .10/.25 NL games for about 6 months.


Usually I would say something like "stick with what you win at". But with your bankroll you should be at the higher level. I'd love to play .25/.50 but my BR cant support it, though I've found myself tilting up to that level and having some success when a large chunk of my BR is at stake. I don't think the level of skill is that different from dime/quarter so if you just continue to play your game the chips will slide your way once again.
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icebreaker5105
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Joined: 10 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am going through the same thing. i just moved up to the 1/2 tables and was doing vary well, but in the last week have taken a big bite out of the bank roll. some bad beats and some bad plays. so i am going back down for i while .5/1 maby get back up in a while. i sill have a good bank roll so don't want to do something stupid and lose it for now.
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KGBlovesOreos
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Joined: 28 Jun 2005
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Location: VA

PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 12:24 pm    Post subject: Re: In a slump after moving up limits Reply with quote

KarlDykhuis wrote:
mathman1115 wrote:
I was consistently beating the .10/.25 NL games for about 6 months.


I don't think the level of skill is that different from dime/quarter so if you just continue to play your game the chips will slide your way once again.


i agree... i've played a lot at both limits, and i dont think there is a huge difference in skill level at all... yes, there are fewer fish at the .25/.50 level, but there are still plenty of people who play badly... just stick with it mathman, keep playing well, and you'll be fine...
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mikec7809
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Joined: 09 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe move back down, just for a week or so until you start to get into a rhythm again and feel confident about moving back up.
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FatStacks06
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Joined: 26 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you don't have your confidence at the .25/.50 tables I would say to switch back down. You have more than enough to support yourself at this level (16 full buy-ins) so this is where you belong for now. The mistake I mad when I moved up was I didn't bet enough to get people off draws. I would throw out a half pot bet on the flop get called and have my top pair get killed by someone drawing to higher pair, or straight or flush. I never bet less than 3/4 pot if I hit the flop. It sends a message that they are going to have to pay for the river too. But if they only have to call two 1/2 pot bets they call more often. The hardest thing for me was to switch up to 2/4 NL (where I am now) make a 4XBB raise pre-flop and make a continuation bet of about $35 and have to lay it down after I invested about $50. A lot of it was in my head that I was up too high and I didn't belong, but after a while you get comfortable and the action comes to you. Stick with it.
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IAmTheVietcong
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Joined: 14 Feb 2006
Posts: 355
Location: College

PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you see your bankroll sink to the point where you can't handle the losses, move down to lower limits to rebuild your bankroll, then move up again.
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matt2411
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Joined: 07 Jan 2006
Posts: 559

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

normal variance.

if you go 2-3 weeks and are a consistent loser, move back down.

i play about 1200 hands a night and its not uncommon to go 7-8k worth of hands and be down a bunch.

and as far as overplaying hands or making silly decisions, if you use pokertracker, sort them by your Net, and look at the biggest losers, look over the hands, and see how you lost it. Its okay to have leaks in your game, but its not okay to let them sit and not fix them.
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