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Jaconda78
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 3:44 am    Post subject: Crazy hand at $30/$60 RAZZ Reply with quote

So I was sitting at my usual 1/2 razz game, when I decided to see what was goin on at the higher limits. To my surprise, I saw a 30/60 table going - very very unusual. I decided to open it up and keep an eye on it along with my own games. I open in the middle of this hand, and am in absolute awe as I see people with these boards continuing to call bets. I thought that 30/60 meant great players - I guess I was wrong. Check this out:

Full Tilt Poker Game #463850121: Table Cartgate - $30/$60 Ante $5 - Limit Razz - 2:38:46 ET - 2006/02/26 (partial)
yuvee04 calls $30
DOUGIE POOR calls $20
*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to DOUGIE POOR [Qs] [2s]
Dealt to PearlJammed [6s] [6d]
Dealt to relentless1958 [7d] [7s]
Dealt to yuvee04 [8c] [Td]
yuvee04 bets $30
DOUGIE POOR calls $30
PearlJammed calls $30
relentless1958 calls $30
*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to DOUGIE POOR [Qs 2s] [9d]
Dealt to PearlJammed [6s 6d] [Jd]
Dealt to relentless1958 [7d 7s] [7c]
Dealt to yuvee04 [8c Td] [8s]
DOUGIE POOR bets $60
PearlJammed calls $60
relentless1958 calls $60
yuvee04 calls $60
*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to DOUGIE POOR [Qs 2s 9d] [Ac]
Dealt to PearlJammed [6s 6d Jd] [5d]
Dealt to relentless1958 [7d 7s 7c] [Tc]
Dealt to yuvee04 [8c Td 8s] [9s]
DOUGIE POOR bets $60
PearlJammed calls $60
relentless1958 calls $60
yuvee04 calls $60
DOUGIE POOR checks
PearlJammed checks
relentless1958 checks
yuvee04 checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DOUGIE POOR shows [Ks 2h Qs 2s 9d Ac Ad] (K,Q,9,2,A)
PearlJammed shows [6h 3d 6s 6d Jd 5d Ah] (J,6,5,3,A)
PearlJammed: bleh
relentless1958 mucks
yuvee04 shows [Qd 5h 8c Td 8s 9s 4h] (T,9,8,5,4)
yuvee04 wins the pot ($752) with T,9,8,5,4
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $755 | Rake $3
Seat 1: DOUGIE POOR showed [Ks 2h Qs 2s 9d Ac Ad] and lost with K,Q,9,2,A
Seat 2: sunita
Seat 4: PearlJammed showed [6h 3d 6s 6d Jd 5d Ah] and lost with J,6,5,3,A
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goodtime
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow that's ridiculous! I can't think of words to describe that play... HE HAD TRIP 7'S SHOWING!!!!!!!!
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NimbleNota
Two Pair


Joined: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 71
Location: Nova Scotia

PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

excuse me while I puke.... if only I had the money to play those stakes Crying or Very sad

Oh well im playing the razz free roll right now, the start of a great empire Very Happy
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David Petina
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Joined: 29 Jan 2006
Posts: 225
Location: Cleveland, Ohio

PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is truly scary is that looking at what won, the guy with the trip 7s showing might have had a good read on the table. If his hole cards were lower than 7 and he bettered his hand on 7th street, he would have won.

I can't believe you could expect that you would win with 7-7-7-10 showing, but like I said the scary part is that he nearly did.

Dave
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AlexScottUK
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Joined: 30 Jun 2005
Posts: 416
Location: Isle of Man

PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've played with some of these guys before.

Yuvee is one to watch. He's an extremely loose player, but is quite good at figuring out where he is in the hand. In fact, he's been a real thorn in my side the last few sessions I've played. It seems that every time I make a seven on fifth street, he rivers a six. Needless to say he can't be bluffed too easily!
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Yimman
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Joined: 31 Jan 2006
Posts: 120
Location: Montana

PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One word. "wow" I guess this just further proves that a bankroll doesnt neccessarily define a player's skill.
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guitarguy178
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Location: St. Louis

PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Razz is one game that no matter what level I play at, I don't see much change in skill. I have a tougher time beating the .25/.50 game than I do the $3/$6 game. Even the few times I played the $5/$10 game I found it to be fairly soft.
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Zophar
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Location: East Coast

PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I was playing at that table, I'd have square impressions all over my forehead from banging it into my keyboard repeatedly. As Jim Norton would say, AWFUL.
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Jaconda78
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

guitarguy178 wrote:
Razz is one game that no matter what level I play at, I don't see much change in skill. I have a tougher time beating the .25/.50 game than I do the $3/$6 game. Even the few times I played the $5/$10 game I found it to be fairly soft.


I agree. I have played both 5/10 and 8/16 razz here, and the level of skill is just sad.
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AllInDrawinDead
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Joined: 22 Sep 2005
Posts: 580
Location: New York, NY

PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've lost a lot of money to bad razz players when I value bet what I know is the best hand. It amazes me how people can chase to the river with a K and a Q showing.
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Blake Solley
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Joined: 04 Mar 2006
Posts: 47

PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most people who play razz think its all luck. They will try to catch three perfect cards after 4th street. Although they get there sometimes, in the long run it will be more profitable to you. Ive seen more bad beats in razz than in any other game. You have to be mentally tough to be a good razzer.
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AllInDrawinDead
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Location: New York, NY

PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It pays off when someone makes something like an 8 on the river and you made a 7 or a 6 on 5th or 6th. That doesn't change the fact that it sucks when you get beat on 7th. It's like "hey can't you see that I have the best hand showing! there's no way you are ahead!"

Like all poker, people like to pour dead money in to the pot in hopes of hitting a perfect card. It's good in the long run for disciplined players but short term variance is a b*tch.
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the ragster
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Location: Jacksonville,Fl

PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol forget the story i like the sig...with the aces against 2 3 that would suck if that happen to me
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KGBlovesOreos
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Posts: 5318
Location: VA

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow... after reading this thread, maybe i should just forget about all the other poker games and focus on razz! lol... i expect plays like that from freerolls, but not a $30/$60 game!
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fmny
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Joined: 24 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This hand is such a classic. Here's the whole hand history:


Full Tilt Poker Game #463850121: Table Cartgate - $30/$60 Ante $5 - Limit Razz - 2:38:25 ET - 2006/02/26
Seat 1: DOUGIE POOR ($1,018)
Seat 2: sunita ($1,744)
Seat 4: PearlJammed ($526)
Seat 5: relentless1958 ($948)
Seat 6: ifishharder ($1,011)
Seat 7: SHARPTOOLS ($1,984.50)
Seat 8: yuvee04 ($17,534)
sunita antes $5
SHARPTOOLS antes $5
DOUGIE POOR antes $5
PearlJammed antes $5
yuvee04 antes $5
relentless1958 antes $5
ifishharder antes $5
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to DOUGIE POOR [Qs]
Dealt to sunita [7h]
Dealt to PearlJammed [6s]
Dealt to relentless1958 [7d]
Dealt to ifishharder [Qh]
Dealt to SHARPTOOLS [9h]
Dealt to yuvee04 [8c]
DOUGIE POOR is high with [Qs]
DOUGIE POOR brings in for $10
sunita folds
PearlJammed completes it to $30
relentless1958 calls $30
ifishharder folds
SHARPTOOLS folds
yuvee04 calls $30
DOUGIE POOR calls $20
*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to DOUGIE POOR [Qs] [2s]
Dealt to PearlJammed [6s] [6d]
Dealt to relentless1958 [7d] [7s]
Dealt to yuvee04 [8c] [Td]
yuvee04 bets $30
DOUGIE POOR calls $30
PearlJammed calls $30
relentless1958 calls $30
*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to DOUGIE POOR [Qs 2s] [9d]
Dealt to PearlJammed [6s 6d] [Jd]
Dealt to relentless1958 [7d 7s] [7c]
Dealt to yuvee04 [8c Td] [8s]
DOUGIE POOR bets $60
PearlJammed calls $60
relentless1958 calls $60
yuvee04 calls $60
*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to DOUGIE POOR [Qs 2s 9d] [Ac]
Dealt to PearlJammed [6s 6d Jd] [5d]
Dealt to relentless1958 [7d 7s 7c] [Tc]
Dealt to yuvee04 [8c Td 8s] [9s]
DOUGIE POOR bets $60
PearlJammed calls $60
relentless1958 calls $60
yuvee04 calls $60
*** 7TH STREET ***
DOUGIE POOR checks
PearlJammed checks
relentless1958 checks
yuvee04 checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DOUGIE POOR shows [Ks 2h Qs 2s 9d Ac Ad] (K,Q,9,2,A)
PearlJammed shows [6h 3d 6s 6d Jd 5d Ah] (J,6,5,3,A)
PearlJammed: bleh
relentless1958 mucks
yuvee04 shows [Qd 5h 8c Td 8s 9s 4h] (T,9,8,5,4)
yuvee04 wins the pot ($752) with T,9,8,5,4
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $755 | Rake $3
Seat 1: DOUGIE POOR showed [Ks 2h Qs 2s 9d Ac Ad] and lost with K,Q,9,2,A
Seat 2: sunita folded on 3rd St.
Seat 4: PearlJammed showed [6h 3d 6s 6d Jd 5d Ah] and lost with J,6,5,3,A
Seat 5: relentless1958 mucked
Seat 6: ifishharder folded on 3rd St.
Seat 7: SHARPTOOLS folded on 3rd St.
Seat 8: yuvee04 showed [Qd 5h 8c Td 8s 9s 4h] and won ($752) with T,9,8,5,4
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