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cubbies760 · Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:55 pm Post subject:

Well, I'll throw my 2 cents in too, although it's gonna seem pretty simple.

Yes, we have to be raising AA UTG or from EP most times for it to be profitable longterm. An EP limp/re-raise screams QQ+, so we have to be certain that the table isn't very aware of what that typically means.

We also need to be raising AA UTG exactly as we're raising any other hand from any position. IMO, we don't want to be varying the raise size to something that we haven't already been doing. It seems that people are obsessed with making most raises with non-monsters standard(ish), but move to the minimum raise when dealt AA from EP. You're just inviting the whole table to come along for the ride, something that isn't good for AA.

By making a normal PF raise, you'll be more likely to get the HU action that you want, while somewhat disguising your hand.

The only times that I'll limp from EP with AA or KK is when I'm fairly sure that a certain player (or 2) will call my PF re-raise, or when I expect the table to have alot of limpers after my original limp. That way, I'll re-raise pretty hard to thin the field, or even take down a PF pot that may have 5 or 6 Big Blinds in it.

cubbies760 · Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:00 pm Post subject:

LemondLady · High Card Joined: 14 Aug 2008 Posts: 4

As some has pointed out, it is generally a bad idea to limp with AA or any hand for that matter. But i think there is a difference in playing aces in a cash game, sit'n go or a tournament. The key is, in each case, to build the pot and if possible provoke the preflop reraise.

If you are playing against skilled players and limp UTG, u might as well just raise it, cause limping here is considered very strong anyway. That goes for each type of game.

If it's a very loose game and you are certain somebody will raise, then the limp is solid but that's the only scenario. In tournament's you will often find people on tilt or on a short stack and they might do the raising for you, problem here is that before it gets back to you again he could have picked a couple of callers and you'll could find yourself playing it against 3-4 players.

If you decide to limp with aces you must be capable of folding it. Thats the key.

fletch_smf · Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:27 am Post subject:

Loopholes202 · Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:27 am Post subject:

Riddim · Moderator Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 8137 Location: Sweden

Meh, suited connectors often aren't very good limping hands unless the pot is likely to be really multiway. In late position, that can be said about pretty much any hand.

LemondLady · High Card Joined: 14 Aug 2008 Posts: 4

Misunderstood. The thread-author was talking about limping UTG, which i will almost never do. That's what i was talking about.

Sure u can limp from cut off or SB with suited connectors and small pairs, agreed. (Depends on action before you).

But i would almost never limp UTG with any hand.

fletch_smf · Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:35 am Post subject:

sscheck · High Card Joined: 15 Aug 2008 Posts: 3

In any situation where there is a great amount of debate, it just doesnt matter what you do. Raise sometimes, limp others.

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