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cjavdani
Royal Flush
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
Posts: 641
Location: Eugene, OR
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 Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:48 pm Post subject: NL25 TT on wet board |
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No read on villain.
Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 7 Players
BB: $25.35
Hero (UTG): $44.25
UTG+1: $50
MP: $30.15
CO: $49.60
BTN: $26.60
SB: $18.35
Pre-Flop: T T dealt to Hero (UTG)
Hero raises to $0.85, UTG+1 calls $0.85, 5 folds
Flop: ($2.05) T 8 9 (2 Players)
Hero bets $1.75, UTG+1 calls $1.75
Turn: ($5.55) Q (2 Players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $3, Hero calls $3
River: ($11.55) 2 (2 Players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $5, Hero calls $5 |
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HuJwang
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Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Posts: 9202
Location: Halifax, NS
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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| i think you can usually fold the river. i don't think your average 25NL player is bluffing here. |
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missjugsalot
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Joined: 31 Oct 2006
Posts: 2133
Location: undisclosed
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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| He called flop with open end draw (jack) he hit on the turn, he value bet river. I'm new at this analyzing stuff, but they tell me to think range and his range seems to easily include many jack hands, it also explains the whole rest of the hand. |
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Honest_Rob
Joined: 21 Jul 2005
Posts: 8614
Location: I neither know nor think that I know. (drinking myself stupid obv)
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:32 am Post subject: |
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| HuJwang wrote: |
| i think you can usually fold the river. i don't think your average 25NL player is bluffing here. |
I disagree. As played you can't fold the river for that bet. You're getting better than 3 to 1 and you have a set and your average 25NL player would also bet a Queen there as well as other random stuff if he is just really horrible. (which isn't that unlikely) |
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nilgiri
Message Board Junkie
Joined: 11 Jan 2007
Posts: 4007
Location: Massachusetts
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Honest_Rob wrote: |
| I disagree. As played you can't fold the river for that bet. You're getting better than 3 to 1 and you have a set and your average 25NL player would also bet a Queen there as well as other random stuff if he is just really horrible. (which isn't that unlikely) |
+1.
I think plenty of people with a much wider range than Jx bet this turn after a check, and then bet the river after a turn check/call and a river check. A pair of queens are an obvious part of villain's range, since it is fairly clear hero doesn't have a straight, and his likely holding is a worse pair. I think villain's range also includes worse sets and some silly things like random PPs or 7x hands. |
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PokerJessO
Royal Flush
Joined: 28 Jun 2007
Posts: 618
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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| A missed flush draw would also fit his betting patterns. |
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cjavdani
Royal Flush
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
Posts: 641
Location: Eugene, OR
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Villain showed AA here. |
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