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babble-on Guest
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 6:57 am Post subject: The horse tournaments, and the way they can drive u nuts> |
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| this was a roller coaster of a game, i was playing people that deffinetly didnt know how to play a lot of the games which was kinda cool sometimes, but they would also bust me on accident it seemed like. especially in omaha hi lo. they would play a pair of kings all the way out until they somehow caught full houses. some of the hands i saw tonight were crazy, luckily it was a freeroll, cuz i dont know if i would put money on some **** like that. this would probably be a better turny to play drunk, cuz it seemed like it was all about making stupid moves, seriously, i think thats how you win. I also decided to quit playin ace high flushes, cuz i got beat on two of them in a row which ended my horse fantasy right when i was galloping through the flower fields with them on a beatiful spring morning poker binge. You know you are fiending when your playing freerolls, let alone horse freerolls. From my experience, i wouldnt suggest playing, but im gonna keep playing because im a true poker fiend. this guy must be on tilt. |
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jjjiitop Guest
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 6:58 am Post subject: |
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| im crazy |
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onesandzeros High Card
Joined: 22 Dec 2005 Posts: 2
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 4:06 am Post subject: |
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| From my experience, i wouldnt suggest playing, |
babble-on, what is your experience sir? If I may ask... since you mentioned it.
Personally, I love HoRsE. But, I often question my own sanity so.....
HoRsE imo is a true test of ones abilities as a "poker player". Can you play, or do you just "think" you can play? Differents skills, different games. More gears. 8)
The NOW game....... |
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Eskon Guest
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:55 am Post subject: |
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I'm new to this site and I just played my first horse tourney and thought is was great (didnt like being bubble boy...but oh well)and I also found the game I need the most work on(hi-low stud)dont think I took a hand in the whole tourny during that phase ,but happy with the rest for the most part. I will definatly play again and again....
I think the most memorable part was watching someone jam the pot with thier quad K's in razz...talk about right cards wrong time! (still cant stop laughing ) |
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bennyprofane Full House
Joined: 28 Dec 2005 Posts: 169
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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Don't tilt, and try to learn the other games. I'd suggest the original Super System for Stud hi/lo, Sklansky's 7 Stud for Advanced Players, Cappeletti's How To Win At Omaha Hi/Lo Poker, and the Razz section in Sklansky on Poker.
This will teach you stuff like: a pair of pocket kings, with one king on the board, has nine outs for the board to pair on the river, and if the bet is of the right size, the implied odds make it a must-call. A savvy Omaha player knows this. A savvy Omaha player also curses at his computer screen when he has the nut flush on the turn and the river pairs the board for exactly the same reason. It will also teach you how to play Stud Hi/Lo with a slight edge. Or you can observe tables on Full Tilt: last night I was watching a $100/200 Stud H/L heads-up game between Huck Seed and Keith Sexton, and you bet I learned something from observing their betting patterns and the hands they showed down.
The Hold 'Em rounds don't offer you a discernable edge, unless you're a really advanced Hold 'Em player. Having a good working knowledge of the ORSE gives you an edge over the folks who play 99% HE, and that gives you an advantage (and +EV) for 80% of the tournament. And that gets you off the bubble and into the better money. |
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Pil Sung Four of a Kind
Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 257 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 9:13 pm Post subject: Re: The horse tournaments, and the way they can drive u nuts> |
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| babble-on wrote: |
| some of the hands i saw tonight were crazy, luckily it was a freeroll, cuz i dont know if i would put money on some **** like that. this would probably be a better turny to play drunk, cuz it seemed like it was all about making stupid moves, seriously, i think thats how you win. |
This statement indicates a major hole in your game. |
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DevilfishFan Royal Flush
Joined: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 906
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:06 pm Post subject: Re: |
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Don't tilt, and try to learn the other games. I'd suggest the original Super System for Stud hi/lo, Sklansky's 7 Stud for Advanced Players, Cappeletti's How To Win At Omaha Hi/Lo Poker, and the Razz section in Sklansky on Poker.
This will teach you stuff like: a pair of pocket kings, with one king on the board, has nine outs for the board to pair on the river, and if the bet is of the right size, the implied odds make it a must-call. A savvy Omaha player knows this. A savvy Omaha player also curses at his computer screen when he has the nut flush on the turn and the river pairs the board for exactly the same reason. It will also teach you how to play Stud Hi/Lo with a slight edge. Or you can observe tables on Full Tilt: last night I was watching a $100/200 Stud H/L heads-up game between Huck Seed and Keith Sexton, and you bet I learned something from observing their betting patterns and the hands they showed down.
The Hold 'Em rounds don't offer you a discernable edge, unless you're a really advanced Hold 'Em player. Having a good working knowledge of the ORSE gives you an edge over the folks who play 99% HE, and that gives you an advantage (and +EV) for 80% of the tournament. And that gets you off the bubble and into the better money. |
You just gave suicidal advice. Don't read the stud high low section in Super System unless you have oldschool friends who don't play with a qualifier. You want Super System 2, and you want to study Stud high low 8 or better. Check out Ray Zee's high low split book once you have a good grasp on the game. |
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duelindalton Pair
Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 38 Location: Tampa
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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| These books vary in so many aspects, yet they come from very successful players. Why is this, its because evry1, the pros, you and me, we have a style suited only to ourselves. These "books" can only point you in a right direction, they cannot replace experience. Experience isnt cheap neither, we might have to shell out a little and play some MTT's of the HORSE games we are weaker at. Like if your razz game needs work, then play some razz sitngos or low buyin games. Or Omaha h/l or stud whichever is your weaker game , single it out and improve on that. The games rotate to fast in HORSE for you to improve on any single game, so do it outside of HORSE. When you single out one game to work on you will notice you develope different styles for each game, which is what you want since they are all very different. These styles you adopt cannot be taught in a book, just like you cannot buy shoes out of a magazine and expect them to fit cuz there are always variances. Now I'm not knocking these books, because they still hold a lot of info. And if you compare them you will notice similarities along with the differences, these similarities are the info you want for they hold true to each of the pro's styles, so they will more than likely hold true for you too. Be yourself and play your own game and GL. These are just my opinions. |
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CrazyJoeDavola Straight Flush
Joined: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 393
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Good post Devilfish, Todd Brunsons' stud Hilo section is a great piece of that overall book (almost worth the price of the entire SS2). Hopefully not that many people will read it, lol. |
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TedyKGB17 Message Board Junkie
Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Posts: 1565 Location: Indianapolis
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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| i'm not sure about the free rolls or the mtt tourneys, but the 8top sngs are money. i think anybody with average 2 better skills in most games will clean up. |
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dmoore1998 Message Board Junkie
Joined: 20 Jan 2006 Posts: 1154 Location: Iowa
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| I like the HORSE SNG's, but you do see some things that even if you're a good player you just can't combat. Once you hit the 3rd round of the SNG's (11th level) the blinds are so high that basically people just have to pick a hand and go with it, that means a lot of pushing all-in preflop in Omaha (which turns into kind of a crapshoot since it's Omaha, not really the kind of game you push hard pre-flop). Or they push in on 3rd street of the stud games. It takes a lot of the "skill" out of the games by that point because the blinds are so high and the money at the table is fixed since it's not a tournament where money is constantly coming into the table. Also so many people play incredibly slowly during their bad games that it's not unlikely to play 2-3 hands of each game before you move onto the next level. |
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duelindalton Pair
Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 38 Location: Tampa
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| That is why in limit you need to establish yourself in the top 3 or so, so that when the blinds get larger you are not always struggling to survive. A lot of players back off on their weaker games or dont like h/l so they tend to shy from those games. This is a great disadvantage for them and a bigger advantage for you. Little pots add up and with limit you dont risk evrything to get them. And even in NL once the blinds are massive its a pick and go situation anyway. |
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DevilfishFan Royal Flush
Joined: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 906
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 11:34 pm Post subject: Re: |
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| Good post Devilfish, Todd Brunsons' stud Hilo section is a great piece of that overall book (almost worth the price of the entire SS2). Hopefully not that many people will read it, lol. |
His section inspired me to devote most of my playing time to the game. If you're serious about stud 8, I highly, highly recommend High-Low Split Poker for Advanced Players by Ray Zee. |
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