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ThunderCrew Message Board Junkie
Joined: 04 May 2006 Posts: 3366 Location: Illinois, Usa
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:56 am Post subject: Easy to see why ppl assume riggat |
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Full Tilt Poker, $30 + $1.50 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 10/20 Blinds, 2 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter
BB: 1,290
Hero (SB): 1,710
Pre-Flop: (30) J K dealt to Hero (SB)
Hero calls 10, BB raises to 340, Hero raises to 660, BB calls 320
Flop: (1,320) A T Q (2 Players)
BB bets 630 and is All-In, Hero calls 630
Turn: (2,580) T (2 Players - 1 is All-In)
River: (2,580) A (2 Players - 1 is All-In)
Results: 2,580 Pot
BB showed T J (a full house, Tens full of Aces) and WON 2,580 (+1,290 NET)
Hero showed J K (a straight, Ace high) and LOST (-1,290 NET)
Then I fought my AZZ OFF and got back to this point.
Full Tilt Poker, $30 + $1.50 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 15/30 Blinds, 2 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter
SB: 1,760
Hero (BB): 1,240
Pre-Flop: (45) 5 J dealt to Hero (BB)
SB calls 15, Hero checks
Flop: (60) 3 J 2 (2 Players)
Hero checks, SB checks
Turn: (60) A (2 Players)
Hero bets 30, SB calls 30
River: (120) 4 (2 Players)
Hero bets 30, SB raises to 210, Hero raises to 390, SB raises to 1,290, Hero calls 790 and is All-In
Results: 2,480 Pot
SB showed 6 5 (a straight, Six high) and WON 2,480 (+1,240 NET)
Hero showed 5 J (a straight, Five high) and LOST (-1,240 NET) |
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renegades8 Forum Fish
Joined: 26 Nov 2006 Posts: 3533 Location: spewing @ 25NL
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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| You played those pretty bad though tbh, you're kind of asking for it lol. |
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ThunderCrew Message Board Junkie
Joined: 04 May 2006 Posts: 3366 Location: Illinois, Usa
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:57 am Post subject: |
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I played it bad ? HOW IN THE |FK IS CHECKING AND LETTING YOU DUMB AZZ OPPONET PUT YUOU ALL IN WITH THE NUT FLOP.
So sick of you people saying I played badly. There is NO way getting your opponent to put you all in with the nut flop a bad play. I was asking for it ? OH sure I was just begging to be runner runenr outted for 30.00 let me tell you.
PS yes second hand was played badly LOL
Sorry forgot I had 2 hands up there. Sorry.
Was ranting because I thought it was only a one hand post.
UNtil I reread your reply that said played those badly. |
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renegades8 Forum Fish
Joined: 26 Nov 2006 Posts: 3533 Location: spewing @ 25NL
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:27 am Post subject: |
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| ThunderCrew wrote: |
I played it bad ? HOW IN THE |FK IS CHECKING AND LETTING YOU DUMB AZZ OPPONET PUT YUOU ALL IN WITH THE NUT FLOP.
So sick of you people saying I played badly. There is NO way getting your opponent to put you all in with the nut flop a bad play. I was asking for it ? OH sure I was just begging to be runner runenr outted for 30.00 let me tell you.
PS yes second hand was played badly LOL
Sorry forgot I had 2 hands up there. Sorry.
Was ranting because I thought it was only a one hand post.
UNtil I reread your reply that said played those badly. |
lol with a post like that I'm not going to bother trying to explain to you.
nh, gg, wp, ul, etc. Move up afaik. |
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JDizzzle72 Straight Flush
Joined: 01 Mar 2008 Posts: 433
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:43 am Post subject: Re: Easy to see why ppl assume riggat |
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| ThunderCrew wrote: |
Full Tilt Poker, $30 + $1.50 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 10/20 Blinds, 2 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter
BB: 1,290
Hero (SB): 1,710
Pre-Flop: (30) J K dealt to Hero (SB)
Hero calls 10, BB raises to 340, Hero raises to 660, BB calls 320 |
You did play that bad. You called a 17x BB raise with KJ off. Lucky flop and you got sucked out on. If you made the standard fold preflop, you woulda been fine. You're far too results oriented. Look at where YOU made a bad play, not where you got unlucky.
2nd hand was terrible, why reraise his river raise? absolutely no reason. why not bet out on the flop? |
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HuJwang Forum Blight
Joined: 20 Aug 2006 Posts: 6030 Location: Halifax, NS
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:37 am Post subject: |
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| ThunderCrew wrote: |
I played it bad ? HOW IN THE |FK IS CHECKING AND LETTING YOU DUMB AZZ OPPONET PUT YUOU ALL IN WITH THE NUT FLOP.
So sick of you people saying I played badly. There is NO way getting your opponent to put you all in with the nut flop a bad play. I was asking for it ? OH sure I was just begging to be runner runenr outted for 30.00 let me tell you.
PS yes second hand was played badly LOL
Sorry forgot I had 2 hands up there. Sorry.
Was ranting because I thought it was only a one hand post.
UNtil I reread your reply that said played those badly. |
dude you had less than half a pot sized bet left on the flop. getting it in was just a formality. for all intents and purposes it went in preflop. the preflop play is pretty lol though, funny to watch a couple of complete donkeys going at it. |
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ThunderCrew Message Board Junkie
Joined: 04 May 2006 Posts: 3366 Location: Illinois, Usa
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:05 am Post subject: |
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Its a HU match correct me if am totaly wrong isnt HU the time where ya open the margins?
I knoe the "pros" play worse hands then that HU and so do alot of you regulars. Dont forget the times I sat on cash rings mainly and seen alot of you also called alot of you pushing pot bet after pot bet tp the river on me with not one single piece of what resembled a hand.
Present postes excluded. This was back before hiatus.
I am sorry about that rant and already apologized. I just get condused when I have the best hand, I get THEM to put me in, and thats a bad play? Just never will get that one I guess. And what about the "luck part" I had him preflop, I had him on the flop, I had him on the turn still, and oops those crazy runners.
I am over it now though AND I have been plsying lighter bets preflop, folding hands when feeling beat like this hand.
I sneak in AJ and land TPTK And wow look at this action...... (I fold)
Full Tilt Poker, $50 + $5 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 15/30 Blinds, 9 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter
UTG: 1,170
UTG+1: 1,455
UTG+2: 2,055
MP1: 1,455
MP2: 1,455
CO: 1,395
BTN: 1,500
Hero (SB): 1,470
BB: 1,545
Pre-Flop: (45) A J dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG calls 30, UTG+1 calls 30, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls 30, MP2 calls 30, CO calls 30, BTN folds, Hero calls 15, BB checks
Flop: (210) 4 7 J (7 Players)
Hero bets 120, BB raises to 1,515 and is All-In, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls 1,425 and is All-In, 2 folds, CO calls 1,365 and is All-In, Hero folds
Turn: (4,545) 3 (3 Players - 1 is All-In)
River: (4,545) 5 (3 Players - 1 is All-In)
Results: 4,545 Pot
UTG+1 showed Q 7 (a flush, Queen high) and WON 4,545 (+3,090 NET)
CO showed J 7 (two pair, Jacks and Sevens) and LOST (-1,395 NET)
BB showed 4 4 (three of a kind, Fours) and LOST (-1,455 NET)
So see I do listen and I do take advice and I am elarning from it that sometimes I can fold the hands I really need to just let go of. Have follded KK 3 times today on flops without Ace but crazy all ins.
I am starting to feel MORE then before folding bad and saving chips us better then to call bad hehehe. |
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JDizzzle72 Straight Flush
Joined: 01 Mar 2008 Posts: 433
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| ThunderCrew wrote: |
Its a HU match correct me if am totaly wrong isnt HU the time where ya open the margins?
I knoe the "pros" play worse hands then that HU and so do alot of you regulars. Dont forget the times I sat on cash rings mainly and seen alot of you also called alot of you pushing pot bet after pot bet tp the river on me with not one single piece of what resembled a hand.
Present postes excluded. This was back before hiatus.
I am sorry about that rant and already apologized. I just get condused when I have the best hand, I get THEM to put me in, and thats a bad play? Just never will get that one I guess. And what about the "luck part" I had him preflop, I had him on the flop, I had him on the turn still, and oops those crazy runners. |
The hand that you're getting criticism on has nothing to do with hand selection. The fact that you got 660 chips in when your opponent only has 1200 preflop means that the hand is gonna be all in regardless. You reraised a 17x BB raise when you have almost 60 BBs. Unless you have AA, that's a completely idiotic move whether or not you have your opponent beat. All the chips were going in the middle whether the flop was 2 3 4 or A Q T, considering the preflop pot.
Again, what hand you ended up with has no bearing on whether or not your preflop play way good. It was terrible, sorry. |
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ThunderCrew Message Board Junkie
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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"All the chips were going in the middle whether the flop was 2 3 4 or A Q T, considering the preflop pot."
Ok that kind of makes sence. No matter what we had it was going to be all in becuase I reraised him instead of just seeing flop leaving this an all in no matter what if he has anything or I have anything.
If I would have just seen flop for his initial raise then , check , let him bet with all that power up there it would probably been small bet to see if I had anything. But then again if we belive in this whole ftp shuffling processor thing, if I didn't raise and he didn't call, taking those few extra seconds to act, then we would have had a different flop anyways correct? Following that theory, I guess if I had just waited one mroe second to gladly call with the flopped nuts, maybe we would'nt have seen that runner runner out. Heeehaaaaa.
Thanx for the tip again though, makes sence what is being said. |
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