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RunnerJohn

I made a risky call on the turn, drawing to a flush today, but I thought I had 15 outs, so I made the call. It paid off and I got the typical donkey complaints from the loser. That doesn't happen to me very often, but it's very annoying when it does. I had to mute him.

In the hand, I was dealt KQs. I was the big blind and nobody raised, so I checked to the flop. With that hand, I could have raised, but the only caller was the small blind, so I would have only taken down 40 chips. I wanted more. I missed the flop, but made a continuation bet and was called. I was thinking I might need to just get out of this one, but then the ace of hearts fell on the turn. That gave me the nut flush draw, so I was thinking I had fifteen outs (9 hearts, 3 kings, 3 queens). I don't usually like to play a draw hand past the turn, but I felt like I probably had the best hand against this particular caller, anyway. As I look at the hand history, however, I see it differently. He had been playing pretty aggressive, so his big bet should have told me he had an ace, but I didn't see it during the hand.

So, do I call 320 chips and hope a heart helps me beat his aces? There were 960 chips in the middle at the time, giving me 3:1 pot odds. I realize my error now. I was thinking I had 15 outs, giving me a 1 in 3 chance, making it a coin toss to hit. Right now, however, I realize that against his aces, I only had nine outs, giving me a 1 in 5 chance, making this a bad call. I made the call anyway and hit a heart on the river.

These hand histories really are helping me improve my game. I need to learn to see the hands as clearly when I'm playing them as I do when I'm reviewing them, though.

Here's the hand. Does anyone see it differently?

Full Tilt Poker, $6 + $0.50 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 40/80 Blinds, 8 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

MP2: 2,330
CO: 785
BTN: 1,780
SB: 2,430
Hero (BB): 1,630
UTG: 2,325
UTG+1: 1,300
MP1: 920

Pre-Flop: (120) K Q dealt to Hero (BB)
6 folds, SB calls 40, Hero checks

Flop: (160) 7 2 7 (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets 80, SB calls 80

Turn: (320) A (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets 160, SB raises to 480, Hero calls 320

River: (1,280) T (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets 990 and is All-In, SB folds

Results: 1,280 Pot (1,280 Rake)
Hero showed K Q (a flush, Ace high) and LOST (-640 NET)

BY THE WAY, can someone tell me how to turn on HTML in my posts?

Thanks

bottlecapthief · Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 11:54 am Post subject:

Dont show next time. Leave him wondering so he has to pay you off next time with an A.

edit: When determining outs, make sure you realize that your 'outs' don't necessarily give you a win. In this case, if you make your hand, it is possible you would lose to a full house. Since your HH doesn't include suits of the cards on the board, I am only left to guess. If whichever card isn't a heart on the flop comes on the river, would you still feel comfident you had the best hand. If the board read 772A7 or 772A2, your flush is not as powerful, especially with the villain calling a flop bet and c/r the turn.

RunnerJohn · Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:27 pm Post subject:

Very good point bottlecapthief. It had never occurred to me that I should worry about a full house. With two sevens on the board, he could easily have had one. However, the guy had been playing pretty aggressively, so if he had two pairs or a set before the river, I think he would have bet more. Still, those are the kinds of things I need to think about during the tournament. I think when I get better at analyzing the hands quickly, I'll start earning more.

Thanks.

Autosuggestion · Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:18 pm Post subject:

I have a feeling he didn't have an Ace.

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