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fletch_smf
Four of a Kind
Joined: 06 Jun 2008
Posts: 308
Location: Brisneyland
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 Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:56 am Post subject: Full Ring .05/.10 NL 2 hands playing TK that made trips. |
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Hand 1.
Early in the session, no real reads. Had seen a lot of hands with 4 limpers seeing the flop. Seemed like the table was waiting for for someone to step up and be the aggressor.
.05/.10 Limit Holdem
10 players
Stacks:
UTG ($7.91)
UTG+1 ($9.25)
UTG+2 ($20.40)
MP1 ($8.93)
MP2 ($1.60)
MP3 ($13.76)
CO ($10.00)
BTN ($1.85)
SB ($10.00)
BB Hero ($21.22)
Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is BB T K
2 folds, UTG+2 calls 0.10, 6 folds, Hero raises to 0.40, UTG+2 calls 0.30
Flop: 4 T T (0.85 2 players)
Hero bets 0.75, UTG+2 raises 1.50, Hero reraises to $5, UTG+2 calls 3.50
Turn: 4 (10.85 BB, 2 players)
Hero bets 10.00
After the flop action I put him on a 4, so was ecstatic to see the turn, figuring it puts him on a smaller FH. In retrospect, is his flop min reraise more indicitive of a flush draw? Should I not have been so aggressive on the Turn, because if he did fill up, he'd bet out to me?
Hand 2.
Little bit later in the same session. Still very passive table so felt comfortable in raising from early position.
.05/.10 Limit Holdem
9 players
Stacks:
UTG ($4.93)
Hero ($41.00)
MP1 ($10.20)
MP2 ($8.62)
MP3 ($2.94)
CO ($10.00)
BTN ($2.00)
SB ($1.75)
BB ($3.03)
Pre-flop: ( 9 players) Hero is UTG+1 T K
1 fold, Hero raises 0.40, 3 folds, CO calls 0.40, 3 folds
Flop: Q 5 K (0.95 SB, 2 players)
Hero bets 0.85, CO calls 0.85
Turn: K (2.65 BB, 2 players)
Hero bets 2.00, CO calls 2.00
River: 6 (6.65 BB, 2 players)
Hero?
This felt like someone chasing a Flush Draw, or someone with a Q who can't let it go? Should I bet, or check to get him to make a play for it? |
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renegades8
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Joined: 26 Nov 2006
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Location: spewing @ 25NL
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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I don't really play full ring at all, but I'll give it a try...
Hand #1: Check preflop. Your hand really isn't strong enough to raise here, and no point in building up a bigger pot OOP. If you have a hand that is worth raising, make it more (atleast $0.50) instead. Flop seems fine, but bet smaller on the turn. Since you're both so deep you can't really just shove the turn, so maybe make it like $6.50 and then stack off when you can.
Hand #2: Fold preflop, that's way too weak of a hand to be opening up from UTG+1 in full ring. If you're going to be opening with hands like these, you should be playing 6-max instead. But once you've decided to play this hand, flop and turn is fine. You definitely want to bet out for value here, not sure what to do if he comes over the top though. I really don't like check/calling since you're losing a lot of value when he checks behind which he does a lot here. I think you have to bet here, and you're probably commited to the pot if he shoves. |
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HuJwang
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Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Posts: 5869
Location: Halifax, NS
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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| renegades8 wrote: |
I don't really play full ring at all, but I'll give it a try...
Hand #1: Check preflop. Your hand really isn't strong enough to raise here, and no point in building up a bigger pot OOP. If you have a hand that is worth raising, make it more (atleast $0.50) instead. Flop seems fine, but bet smaller on the turn. Since you're both so deep you can't really just shove the turn, so maybe make it like $6.50 and then stack off when you can.
Hand #2: Fold preflop, that's way too weak of a hand to be opening up from UTG+1 in full ring. If you're going to be opening with hands like these, you should be playing 6-max instead. But once you've decided to play this hand, flop and turn is fine. You definitely want to bet out for value here, not sure what to do if he comes over the top though. I really don't like check/calling since you're losing a lot of value when he checks behind which he does a lot here. I think you have to bet here, and you're probably commited to the pot if he shoves. |
agree for both. hand #2 i might just go ahead and shove the river, or maybe bet $5. whatever you think gets the most calls from a queen. while i think he has a busted draw (flush draw or one of the many straight draws) more often than a queen, i think he's a lot more likely to call with a queen than he is to bet with a busted draw. also, about KTo, the hand isn't really even strong enough to play in early possition at a 6max table, so forget about it at full ring. |
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fletch_smf
Four of a Kind
Joined: 06 Jun 2008
Posts: 308
Location: Brisneyland
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:10 am Post subject: |
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Thanks very much for your replies.
My reasoning for raising from early was that I would get the chance to c bet any callers and take the pot if they missed the flop, which they would most of the time. Not a strategy to use often, but this was a pretty passive bunch. |
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