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nilgiri
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 Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:05 pm Post subject: Stack off with QQ? |
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Villain is running something like 13/10/3(80) with a 3-bet of 6. I'm running something like 26/22, maybe looser. If it helps at all, Villain is a forum member, and based on his posts I strongly suspect Villain has been running tighter over these hands than he normally does (although I doubt he is a whole lot looser).
MP has been limping a lot (he's got a VPIP of almost 50), and I have been a bit more aggressive about raising him when he does. Villain may or may not have noticed this, and if he has I don't know whether he would associate that behavior with my current 3-bet or not.
Obviously, to figure out what I should do next, I need to put Villain on a range. I also need to determine what cards out of his range he will stack off with.
So, any thoughts on what his range is after the turn raise? Which of those cards will he stack off with? Also, is there ever going to be a difference between calling and getting it in OTT or pushing all in now? (I don't think he is the type to bluff shove the turn if he would otherwise fold to a shove OTF. But I could be wrong.)
Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter
BB: $54.35
UTG: $54.45
MP: $24.30
Hero (CO): $71.90
BTN: $50
SB: $66.05
Pre-Flop: Q Q dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, MP raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $5.25, BTN folds, SB calls $5, 2 folds
Flop: ($12.50) 9 T 7 (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $10, SB raises to $25, Hero ??? |
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jongreenway
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Fold. He has 99 or 1010. You beat only JJ and i highly doubt he plays flop like that with jj. |
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jongreenway
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| tbh i think i check flop given he cc the 3b since. I bet flop only if i am happy grtting it in |
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nilgiri
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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| jongreenway wrote: |
| tbh i think i check flop given he cc the 3b since. I bet flop only if i am happy grtting it in |
It seems to me there are a ton of cards I don't like seeing OTT, some worse than others: A,K,J,8. If any of these come out, I pretty much need to give up to any aggression, no? |
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IABoomer
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Given his cold call pre-flop and his check-raise on the flop, I'd be hard pressed to say you're ahead. Every time I try to make a hero call/push here, I run into KK or AA. Every freaking time. |
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Riddim
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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| What greenway said, except I think we might see JJ here a bit more often than he thinks. |
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jongreenway
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Riddim wrote: |
| What greenway said, except I think we might see JJ here a bit more often than he thinks. |
I don't think villain has JJ often when he value raises like he did. He would be afraid of being drawn out on and would committ to the hand shove or fold (prolly not fold tho) |
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nilgiri
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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Ok. I shoved, he called and turned over AA. (I hit a runner runner straight...)
Next time I'll know I'm beat. |
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