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byamamoto1 · Bay Area Bidness Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 2189

When you have a wired pair such as 7's or 8's with a J face, up against a completion bet with a face of A, K or Q, how many streets will you take off in order to try and hit your set. If you do hit the set, your implied odds suggest you will get paid off heavily for the hand.

Also when holding two pair(J's & 10's) with 5 cards dealt facing a player who had opened the pot with an K door card followed by two suited to match the K, would you approach this situation delicately or push to the max? if he opened the pot with a K its suggesting that he may have a split pair or maybe even a wired pair. suppose he re-raises you after you lead out, would you push back or simply call?

guitarguy178 · Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:18 pm Post subject:

As far as playing the mid pairs in the hole, I will usually call while the bets are still cheap (third and fourth street). Once I have five cards, if I haven't made my set or made a really great draw, I will release it to a full bet after 5th. Even catching two small pair can put you in danger if you feel he has at least one pair bigger than your top pair.

byamamoto1 · Bay Area Bidness Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 2189

Also is there a way to calculate percentages on hands for stud. It would be most helpful if someone could share their knowledge with me. Also would there be a way to calculate percentages for H/L as well as for regular stud? i'm sure it gets more complicated, but i'd be willing to give it a shot.

guitarguy178 · Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 5:31 pm Post subject:

Calculating outs tends to get a bit trickier in stud as opposed to hold'em. The method I use is pretty complicated and probably requires far more effort than needed. I would suggest going on to a site like www.twodimes.net and running some basic hands through it. See what you come up with as far as drawing hands on 4th and 5th and just remember the outcomes. For example: after 4th you have an open end straight draw against 1 bigger pair you are about 50-50. against 2 bigger pair you are about 2-1 (assuming your outs are live). Just try to remember certain scenarios and you should be ok.

saj2000 · High Card Joined: 23 Feb 2006 Posts: 12 Location: New York

I have a homegrown way of calculating odds in stud. Maybe some of you guys can correct me, and I could tweek my technique a little. I calculate how many bets vs. my hand.

I think you catch a set 1 in 8 times? So to chase a set I need to have minimum 8 bets in the pot to my 1 bet.

If I feel like chasing a strait, I think (and dont condemn me if I am wrong) but a strait happens 1 in seven times, So I want 7 bets in the pot to my 1 bet.

NOW...I dont chase sets. But If I want to chase a strait it will happen 1 in seven times therefore I expect to miss 6 of those hands and get one. That sounds like a lot of bets to me so I am cautious about trying to catch straits.

If you have two pairs, and the other guy has 4 cards to a flush (or strait) (start checking) He will DEFINATELY hit his flush before you fill up (I forgot what the chances were) but its definately not in your favor, if he raises (especially on the river) I will fold, ..he probably got it.

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