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Honest_Rob
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 Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:01 pm Post subject: 25NL JJ vs 3 opponents (line check) |
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CO is 8/4/2.0(1420)
BTN is readless
BB is 17/11/2.2(954)
Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
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BTN: $23.45
SB: $15.10
BB: $40.15
UTG: $22.50
UTG+1: $21.65
MP1: $25
Hero (MP2): $25.35
CO: $24.65
Pre-Flop: J J dealt to Hero (MP2)
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.85, CO calls $0.85, BTN calls $0.85, SB folds, BB raises to $2.60, Hero calls $1.75, CO calls $1.75, BTN calls $1.75
Flop: ($10.50) 2 K 3 (4 Players)
BB bets $10, 3 folds |
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cubbies760
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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I'm running like hell here.
Even that there may be a chance that he's betting pot on that flop with a hand like 99, it could also be one of many hands that has you drawing to (2) outs. I think the latter is more likely. |
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Riddim
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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| cubbies760 wrote: |
I'm running like hell here.
Even that there may be a chance that he's betting pot on that flop with a hand like 99, it could also be one of many hands that has you drawing to (2) outs. I think the latter is more likely. |
And by many you mean 4? I do agree about folding though. Not only does the BB always have a better hand, there are two players behind you who could've hit that K just to make things worse. |
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HuJwang
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Rob, what exactly is your question here? I'm having trouble figuring out what part of the hand is not an easy standard decision, with the possible exception of 4-betting pre which i might do on occasion against an habitual squeezer but obviously never against a 17/11 |
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cubbies760
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Riddim wrote: |
| And by many you mean 4? |
That's about it. How many other hands would you expect the BB to re-raise PF with here? IMO, most of his range is beating JJ on this flop, right? |
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Honest_Rob
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:38 am Post subject: |
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| HuJwang wrote: |
| Rob, what exactly is your question here? I'm having trouble figuring out what part of the hand is not an easy standard decision, with the possible exception of 4-betting pre which i might do on occasion against an habitual squeezer but obviously never against a 17/11 |
It's a line check. Mostly I was interested in PF because I think the flop is an easy fold. |
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Riddim
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:24 am Post subject: |
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| cubbies760 wrote: |
| Riddim wrote: |
| And by many you mean 4? |
That's about it. How many other hands would you expect the BB to re-raise PF with here? IMO, most of his range is beating JJ on this flop, right? |
I'd say that most is a pretty huge understatement.
Rob, I think PF is fine. There are a few people behind you that will increase your implied odds and you also win unimproved against a missed AK fairly often. |
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