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lovebeefstew
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:55 pm    Post subject: Lovebeefstew's SNG experiment COMPLETED. (SUCCESS!!) Reply with quote

Not sure if this is in the right place or not but nevermind. Ok.... Ive been playing the $26 45 man SNG recently with a little success. What I plan to do is play 20 $8.80 (Turbo) 18 man token events. Turbo because Ive found these are significantly weaker. Total layout therefore is $176. I will then use whatever tokens I get to enter the $26 45 man SNG's. I will play all the token events first and then the 45 SNG's. Any cash I win from getting 6th in the token events I will add to my final prize pool. I believe I can make some money on this so I've decided to post it if anyone wants to follow my progress. If im successful, I may consider running a BAP similar to this in the future. I will play a maximum of 2 tables at any one time.

I have got a spreadsheet to monitor my progress. Could someone help me out my telling me how to get the spreadsheet into this window? Thanks.

Ok I will just update my progress here. I have just realised the turbo 18man token events are $8.70 so the total investment will be $174.

Number of tokens won: 9

Total Token Event Results:

1) 6/18 ($14)
2) Tie 1st (1 Token)
3) 7/18 (N/A)
4) Tie 1st (1 Token)
5) 13/18 (N/A)
6) Tie 1st (1 Token)
7) 17/18 (N/A)
8) 12/18 (N/A)
9) 12/18 (N/A)
10) Tie 1st (1 Token)
11) 12/18 (N/A)
12) 12/18 (N/A) <------- Big Cooler lol
13) Tie 1st (1 Token)
14) 13/18 ( N/A)
15) Tie 1st (1 Token)
16) 8/18 (N/A)
17) Tie 1st (1 Token)
18) Tie 1st (1 Token)
19) Tie 1st (1 Token)
20) 12/18 (N/A)

Accumulative Winnings (Cash + Token Value) ---- $248
Accumulative Winnings (Total cash) ---- $14

Ok so after playing my 20 games (thanks to a good late run), I have 9 Tokens and won $14 to give a total value of $248. Outlaying $174 im pretty happy with this, could be better but could be worse. The token events have now done their job. Time to win some REAL money. Ill update my 45man $26 tourns as I go.

Total $26 45 man SNG's:

1) 1/45 ($410.40)
2) 1/45 ($410.40) <------- 2nd in row WOW
3) 22/45 (N/A)
4) 6/45 ($52) <------ My AK suited lost to KQo.
5) 31/45 (N/A)
6) 10/45 (N/A)
7) 28/45 (N/A)
8) 2/45 ($270)
9) 31/45 (N/A)

Total Monies Accumulated (from original $174) ----- $1160.80

Total Net Profit ----- $986.80

CONCLUSION

Well this was obviously a complete success on all parts. Overall I made $986.80 and my BR is now bigger than it has ever been by quite a long way. Therefore my overall ROI was 666%. Thanks to all that railed and followed this. My big conclusion from these games is that they are definately beatable with discipline and ensuring that the beats and bad play doesnt send you on tilt. I think I countered this by only playing 2 or 3 tourns in a day instead of all in one go. I will definately be doing this again and will condsider running it as a BAP in the future. All feedback is welcomed.

Stew


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rockycatt
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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lovebeefstew
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont know, nevermind ill just update the original post with my results.
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JDizzzle72
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GL sir, $26 45s are quite soft, I've got a 150% ROI over 30 games in them lol and I'm farrrrrrr from a great poker player. Smash them imo. And i have a fin for 45s overall weeeeeeeeeeeeeee Smile haha

/hijack
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lovebeefstew
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lets see how i go. From my calculations, I have to get 7 tokens to make it worth while going into the 45msn SNG's without making any cash at all. But obv a few 6th place finishes are likely. Ill keep an accululated monies tally though.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where's Mr Excel ( Skeeeeeeeeeeeeter ) when you need him.... Wink
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lovebeefstew
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smile
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lovebeefstew
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This left me with like 100 chips and I came back for a token lol.

Full Tilt Poker Game #6804653069: Tier One $8+$0.70 (Turbo) (51721786), Table 1 - 50/100 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:13:19 ET - 2008/06/13
Seat 1: LoveBeefStew (1,430)
Seat 2: melissa2141 (1,075)
Seat 3: dukeofhazard (2,010)
Seat 4: icecoldbitc (1,410)
Seat 5: BABYSU (1,280)
Seat 6: jackfoursooted (1,630)
Seat 7: The_PUD (1,960)
Seat 8: rassberryfairie (1,480)
Seat 9: KOKOMOKID (1,225)
The_PUD posts the small blind of 50
rassberryfairie posts the big blind of 100
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to LoveBeefStew [Ad Ac]
KOKOMOKID folds
LoveBeefStew raises to 300
melissa2141 folds
dukeofhazard folds
icecoldbitc folds
BABYSU raises to 1,280, and is all in
jackfoursooted has 15 seconds left to act
jackfoursooted is sitting out
jackfoursooted has timed out
jackfoursooted folds
The_PUD has 15 seconds left to act
The_PUD folds
rassberryfairie folds
LoveBeefStew calls 980
BABYSU shows [9h 9c]
LoveBeefStew shows [Ad Ac]
*** FLOP *** [Th 8h 3h]
*** TURN *** [Th 8h 3h] [9s]
*** RIVER *** [Th 8h 3h 9s] [8s]
BABYSU shows a full house, Nines full of Eights
LoveBeefStew shows two pair, Aces and Eights
BABYSU wins the pot (2,710) with a full house, Nines full of Eights
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,710 | Rake 0
Board: [Th 8h 3h 9s 8s]
Seat 1: LoveBeefStew showed [Ad Ac] and lost with two pair, Aces and Eights
Seat 2: melissa2141 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: dukeofhazard didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: icecoldbitc didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: BABYSU showed [9h 9c] and won (2,710) with a full house, Nines full of Eights
Seat 6: jackfoursooted (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: The_PUD (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: rassberryfairie (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: KOKOMOKID didn't bet (folded)
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lovebeefstew
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Token Event number 7.... sick

Full Tilt Poker Game #6805519633: Tier One $8+$0.70 (Turbo) (51729044), Table 1 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 2:53:53 ET - 2008/06/13
Seat 1: VegasRoyalty (3,755)
Seat 2: goonis420 (1,365)
Seat 3: HoldemKorea (1,785)
Seat 4: LoveBeefStew (600)
Seat 5: KennyKid (1,720)
Seat 6: Joel51 (675)
Seat 7: rn101 (1,025)
Seat 8: ReddRufensor (1,425)
Seat 9: woody242 (1,150)
VegasRoyalty posts the small blind of 25
goonis420 posts the big blind of 50
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to LoveBeefStew [Td As]
HoldemKorea folds
LoveBeefStew calls 50
KennyKid folds
Joel51 folds
rn101 folds
ReddRufensor folds
woody242 folds
VegasRoyalty calls 25
goonis420 checks
*** FLOP *** [5h 7c Ts]
VegasRoyalty checks
goonis420 checks
LoveBeefStew checks
*** TURN *** [5h 7c Ts] [5s]
VegasRoyalty has 15 seconds left to act
VegasRoyalty checks
goonis420 bets 50
LoveBeefStew raises to 550, and is all in
VegasRoyalty folds
goonis420 calls 500
LoveBeefStew shows [Td As]
goonis420 shows [2d 7s]
*** RIVER *** [5h 7c Ts 5s] [7d]
LoveBeefStew shows two pair, Tens and Sevens
goonis420 shows a full house, Sevens full of Fives
goonis420 wins the pot (1,250) with a full house, Sevens full of Fives
LoveBeefStew stands up
The blinds are now 30/60
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1,250 | Rake 0
Board: [5h 7c Ts 5s 7d]
Seat 1: VegasRoyalty (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 2: goonis420 (big blind) showed [2d 7s] and won (1,250) with a full house, Sevens full of Fives
Seat 3: HoldemKorea didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: LoveBeefStew showed [Td As] and lost with two pair, Tens and Sevens
Seat 5: KennyKid didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Joel51 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: rn101 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: ReddRufensor didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: woody242 (button) didn't bet (folded)
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lovebeefstew
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update at token tourny 9.... Im getting beat up pretty bad at the mo. Getting sucked out on alot. Although I was expecting this the play is far from good. I will continue this experiment to make money. Im still confident, if i keep getting my money in good then i think ill come through.
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lovebeefstew
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back on track at the halfway point with 4 tokens and a $14 cash so far.
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lovebeefstew
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP updated with all token tourns complete.
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lovebeefstew
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well as the OP says, I had 9 tokens. Ive played one of my 45man SNG's and took it down for $410.40. Therefore I am $236.40 up with 8 tokens left. I will continue this experiment. It might be in a few days tho. Hopefully ill recieve some feedback in that time.
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GamblerFace
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Impressive. You convinced me to do the same thing. Although I dont even do the 8 dollar token games, i play the free 600 FTP or 1800 FTP ones.

The 600 are pretty rough because people are loose and you have to WIN but the 1800 ones are great....you only need 1-3 to get a token. If you have lots of FTP, i would recommend these.
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lenny_bruce
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow.

Took down your very first one? That's a good start to your experiment.

Congrats man, nice job.
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