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Badlydrawnboy
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 Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:52 am Post subject: Question about coinflip situations and donk play |
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OK, here's the background:
I was in a 1 dollar SnG some hours ago. These SnGs are full of bad players and during the first few levels, literally everyone is mostly limping into any hand.
When the third hand of the SnG was dealt (blinds are 5/10 at that point) , I got AQs in early to middle position. I get two limpers and I decide to raise to 70 just to weed some of the other limpers out.
Unfortunately, I make a misklick and I bet 20 (minraise). Of course, almost everybody calls behind. We now have a pot of about 120 or 140, when the BB decides to go all-in for his entire stack (about 1000 chips).
Now of course, this move makes my donkey alarm bells go off, betting 1000 into a 100 pot, and I thought to myself "Oh well, now that I made this mistake PF, I might just as well take this coinflip". I call, he turns over 88 and wins the hand.
My question is would you take this coinflip from an obvious donk so early in the tournament or not?
I know that statistically, he's a very very slight favourite over me (52/48), but over what sample of hands are we speaking?
I wonder what your thoughts about this are. I'm getting so tired of the donks I feel I'm sometimes becoming one myself. Or do you think taking this coinflip early one to double up is not so bad after all?
Any thoughts are welcome. |
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BOYNAMEDSUE
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Getting involved in big pots in the first couple stages of a sng is just not worth it. You only had a little big invested, so if you knew he had a pp you should probably fold. Also, if you think you're better than many of the players in your sng there is no need to risk your whole sng on a 50/50 all-in call. You can fold and beat them later on.
Check out a book titled Sit 'n Go Strategy, by Collin Moshman. It's a great book for beginning sng players. You will be miles ahead of the micro sng competition just by following Collin's advice. You will play less hands early on when the blinds are small, and be more aggressive later on when the blinds are bigger. |
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Badlydrawnboy
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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| BOYNAMEDSUE wrote: |
Getting involved in big pots in the first couple stages of a sng is just not worth it. You only had a little big invested, so if you knew he had a pp you should probably fold. Also, if you think you're better than many of the players in your sng there is no need to risk your whole sng on a 50/50 all-in call. You can fold and beat them later on.
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It's just that I see this kind of play so often... I mean, if I had TT in this hand and I would have folded to his all-in, that would actually be a bad thing to do, although it would be recommended by "theory".
By the way, I know the general theory from Marshman, don't have the book itself, but sometimes I'm really questioning my play against these people at the microstakes. I remember Mike Caro once said that one his top 5 poker myths is "Tighten up at a loose table" - he recommended the opposite, actually. I had my biggest SNG wins by playing loose-passive PF and then trapping people postflop because they have no idea on how to bet - following the "standard" strategy just doesn't seem to work as well for me.
So I guess I'm a little bit at a loss at the moment.
I'm gonna try the tight early, loose later strategy some more for now and I'll try to post the results. |
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